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Posted on 10/18/20 at 10:01 pm to vandelay industries
quote:Cristobal is tier 2. Do not want. He was a #1 recruiter while at Bama -- big deal. That's it. He has a losing record as head coach. Why would we want him?
tier 2 candidate
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:14 am to PrisonMike
Have you seen what he is putting together in Eugene? Saying he is tier 2 says no, you have not.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 7:09 am to PrisonMike
Y’all making me agree with Prison Mike again.
Like the old days. I don’t understand why everyone thinks MC could be successful at one of, if not the hardest coaching job in the country.
He hasn’t built shite at Oregon. They have been at this level on and off for a while.
Like the old days. I don’t understand why everyone thinks MC could be successful at one of, if not the hardest coaching job in the country.
He hasn’t built shite at Oregon. They have been at this level on and off for a while.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:27 am to LanierSpots
Yep, some of the names being thrown out are laughable. "Let's fire the unproven HC when hired him to do it all over again.........and pay roughly $30M to do it".
ETA IF you are throwing names out there..........start with Fleck and work backwards.
ETA IF you are throwing names out there..........start with Fleck and work backwards.
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:45 am to MrAUTigers
Morning all. I like Gus as a repre3senatative but not as the coach. He has no clue how to turn this ship around period. By year 7 or 8 we should not be at rebuild we should be at reload. It's just ridiculous. Anyway I'm not typing anything that hasn't been rehashed ad nauseum. We have revived the horse multiple times only to beat the poor thing to death over and over again. War Eagle everyone.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:58 am to wartiger2004
Agree with Lanier by far the most difficult job in college football. But the rewards are great. Money has been there for head and assistant coaches so we can draw good resumes.
Problem is we ain’t paying $25 million for Gus not to work nor are we gonna fork out about $5 million to our assistants. And if we are really going for a coach that every team in the country except 3-4 then we more then likely would have to pay part of his buy out at another school and could push you up to $35-40 million. Just ain’t happening this year.
When you accept that fact the season will become more enjoyable. Gus’s days are numbered. It will just be after next season COVID and big contract almost completely make it impossible for us to make a change right now
Problem is we ain’t paying $25 million for Gus not to work nor are we gonna fork out about $5 million to our assistants. And if we are really going for a coach that every team in the country except 3-4 then we more then likely would have to pay part of his buy out at another school and could push you up to $35-40 million. Just ain’t happening this year.
When you accept that fact the season will become more enjoyable. Gus’s days are numbered. It will just be after next season COVID and big contract almost completely make it impossible for us to make a change right now
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:02 am to CorchJay
We were told their was money for the buyout last year!
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:11 am to NewbombII
What part of all universities and athletic departments will take a huge hit in revenue because of lack of fans. Who knows ESPN might even try to pull some bs on money for TV as well. They are bleeding revenue this year as well. Heck I’m not even sure if the announcers are even in the stadium. I know the BYU/Houston game Friday night that they weren’t but I don’t think BYU is allowing really anyone in the stadium.
Plus we are in the process of building a football only facility. Can’t even remember the cost of it.
The money isn’t the same as it was last year for large donors. Think about it. In this economy even though the stock market is up so you trust it with all that’s going on across the country?
Plus we are in the process of building a football only facility. Can’t even remember the cost of it.
The money isn’t the same as it was last year for large donors. Think about it. In this economy even though the stock market is up so you trust it with all that’s going on across the country?
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:31 am to NewbombII
quote:. . . when it was signed.
We were told their was money for the buyout...
If I remember correctly... ((meaning couldn't find it with the short/limited search feature on the rant.))
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:06 am to CorchJay
I disagree on the most difficult job line. Auburn is closer to line talent than UA/UGA. Clemson proved you can out recruit both of them. Auburns problem has always been Auburn. We just can't get out of our own way. Tubs had a path to dominate the nation, and was lazy. Gus too, and did not capitalize on 2013. You have to be a businessman first, then football coach. IMO, we have been too patient. We should have jetgated Tubs. He squandered talent. Deserved to be fired after the train wreck that was the 03 season. Gus should have been fired in 15 and then again 17. Greene needs to approach this as the 100MM business it is. We will pay you, support through facilities, but understand your constraints. This is Auburns football program, not yours.
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:14 am to AUCE05
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I disagree on the most difficult job line.
It’s definitely one of the most difficult. Not for lack of resources or anything, mainly because you have to go head to head with bama and your schedule is going to be stout every year with bama, uga, and LSU.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:27 am to LanierSpots
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Like the old days. I don’t understand why everyone thinks MC could be successful at one of, if not the hardest coaching job in the country.
On what planet is Auburn "one of the hardest coaching jobs in the country" LMAO?
We have decade-long recruiting pipelines built into place and a network of support that runs deep. Almost every single coach that has held this job has experienced success, regardless of how incompetent they were. Our current HC and the guy he replaced both somehow played for national titles despite being completely incompetent coaches.
This job ain't that difficult. You want to talk difficult? Go look at Texas. They have a collection of billionaire boosters all pulling the program in completely different directions. Literally a problem of having TOO much money. The Auburn job is a lot more tame than a lot of you realize.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:41 am to AUCE05
quote:T'was ever thus.
Auburns problem has always been Auburn.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:57 am to AA7
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mainly because you have to go head to head with bama and your schedule is going to be stout every year with bama, uga, and LSU.
Oh, you mean like every other school in this conference LMAO?
Yeah, its a hard schedule. Thats kind of why this job also presents unprecedented financial support. We pay our DC more money than most schools pay their HC. Our recruiting budget is astronomical. When our idiot HC needed defense, we have the network and resources to go out and basically buy the best guy on the market and pay him more money than most schools can afford to pay their HC. Oh you can't get your offense to work? Guess what, we have the money to hire and fire coaches year after year and absorb all of those buyouts.
Does this job present some sort of unrealistic expectation or something? Actually...it seems to be the complete opposite LMAO. We have a Sun Belt HC making $7 mill a year who's somehow lasted into his 8th season and some people still want to give him even MORE time LMAO. We're kind of in this position to begin with because 8-9 wins while being a "good guy" is enough for some people. In what other real-world job can you be presented with this many resources, get paid out the arse to deliver below-market results, and still have supporters? This looks like the easiest job on the planet.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 11:59 am
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:02 pm to FearlessFreep
ABG. ABG. ABG.
Anybody But Gus.
The latest, the 12-13 million needed immediately is there. We then owe Gus 10.5 over 4 years. 2.6 per year.
So hirer a Billy Napier, etc and pay them 4.4 million. ABG
Anybody But Gus.
The latest, the 12-13 million needed immediately is there. We then owe Gus 10.5 over 4 years. 2.6 per year.
So hirer a Billy Napier, etc and pay them 4.4 million. ABG
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:11 pm to allin2010
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So hirer a Billy Napier, etc and pay them 4.4 million. ABG
Not sure Napier is worth that much, but 4-5 million would be a raise for most coaches.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:15 pm to AUCE05
Clemson isn't out recruiting UGa or Bama or Ohio State. Those 3 are in a completely different stratosphere from everyone else.
Clemson is in the group with Texas LSU Florida.
Then the ones with just enough talent to be in the conversation is next Notre Dame, Oklahoma, USC, aTm, Oregon, Penn State, and Auburn.
If Clemson was in the SEC they would average 3 losses a year even when they had their best teams and with that they would never even be in the position they are now. Just like they won't be when FSU and Miami get back to some normalcy.
Name a more difficult job with expectations? Sure Kansas State is a more difficult job to win at but there aren't expectations to compete for championships. Only 2 other schools compare to Auburn in that regard. Michigan State has some expectations and Okie State has some but nothing like AU.
Clemson is in the group with Texas LSU Florida.
Then the ones with just enough talent to be in the conversation is next Notre Dame, Oklahoma, USC, aTm, Oregon, Penn State, and Auburn.
If Clemson was in the SEC they would average 3 losses a year even when they had their best teams and with that they would never even be in the position they are now. Just like they won't be when FSU and Miami get back to some normalcy.
Name a more difficult job with expectations? Sure Kansas State is a more difficult job to win at but there aren't expectations to compete for championships. Only 2 other schools compare to Auburn in that regard. Michigan State has some expectations and Okie State has some but nothing like AU.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:23 pm to metafour
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On what planet is Auburn "one of the hardest coaching jobs in the country" LMAO?
On planet Earth. Auburn constantly has the hardest or top 5 schedule in the country. And who are Auburns rivals on the field and on the recruiting trail? Alabama, Georgia and LSU. Our main rival? Alabama who happens to be in one of, if not the best, run in college football history.
What did we hear before the Auburn/Oregon game last year? "This is the most important game of the year for Oregon". The hardest game on their schedule. Hell, they were about our 5th hardest game.
Hardest schedule, biggest rivals all with meddling boosters, a fan base that has unrealistic expectations a lot of times and all while being in the hardest division in college football.
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