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re: Question for the Harsin haters…
Posted on 7/23/22 at 12:39 pm to TailbackU
Posted on 7/23/22 at 12:39 pm to TailbackU
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What is it that you would have him do differently?
Win. Recruit better.
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His strength and conditioning program is light years better than Gus’, and he improved the staff from year one to year two.
Oh yea? Well we'll see.
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Most of the recruiting woes we have are due to a coup attempt he had nothing to do with.
Most of the recruiting woes had a lot to do with him shitting the bed the second half of the season and him not knowing how to relate to southern football culture and several players on the team.
I actually don't hate him as our coach. But I'm still waiting to be impressed.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 12:48 pm to BigBlueAU
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I actually don't hate him as our coach. But I'm still waiting to be impressed.
Agreed. He says the right things. For the most part as a man I like him. When he says stuff like “just watch” that inspires confidence.
Performance has to match up though.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 12:54 pm to metafour
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This one is actually even worse than what you wrote.
This is true
Posted on 7/23/22 at 1:31 pm to TailbackU
Try harder. Do better. Recruit.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 1:42 pm to TailbackU
I would have him recruit better and close out games.
Unfortunately the former is never going to happen at Auburn and without nothing else really matters.
Harsin is a good football coach and probably a good enough guy, that said he is coaching in the wrong era and, at Auburn the wrong area. Unfortunately, due to his own shortcomings and the people around him, he will never be successful at Auburn.
Unfortunately the former is never going to happen at Auburn and without nothing else really matters.
Harsin is a good football coach and probably a good enough guy, that said he is coaching in the wrong era and, at Auburn the wrong area. Unfortunately, due to his own shortcomings and the people around him, he will never be successful at Auburn.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 1:44 pm to auburn22
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"He brought in his guys in year 2 for the staff to all be on the same page"
He promote "his guys" because everyone else bounced and nobody decent wanted to come.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 4:08 pm to auburn22
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he ran off all the turds" And you know this how, because they decided to go somewhere else.
Really good players that stayed alluded to that being the case. Are they lying? I don’t know but probably not.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 4:14 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I guess we will see what happens. With the talent on the roster currently 8-4 should be the floor for a good coach.
Next year probably 7-5. The year after no clue the roster will basically be all Harsin guys.
Next year probably 7-5. The year after no clue the roster will basically be all Harsin guys.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 1:37 pm to metafour
Some of you fricksticks need to watch this. Pretty much the thoughts of those of us who support Harsin.
Is Bryan Harsin the Right Head Coach for Auburn?
Is Bryan Harsin the Right Head Coach for Auburn?
This post was edited on 7/30/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 7/30/22 at 2:06 pm to TailbackU
Heard this on the podcast. I have heard plenty from those who support Harsin and those who do not. My opinion remains the same until something happens to change it. He is probably not a bad coach but he is out of his league at Auburn.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 5:32 pm to TailbackU
Harsin is a lame duck because of what the boosters did to him. I liked him and still do, but I see the writing on the wall. We’re not even in the conversation for top 100 recruits and will get demolished by the teams like Georgia, Alabama, LSU, and A&M who consistently sign several of them.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 8:01 am to TailbackU
His recruiting sucks. He is toxic as exemplified by the fact that pretty much our entire coaching staff left after last year and we had more players transfer out than any other SEC team- but keep styling it as a fit problem. He doesn’t know how to lead. We are going to have another terrible season. People who like Harsin have a very short memory of the self-inflicted wounds caused by Harsin last year. Allowing Mississippi State to come back from such a huge deficit makes Gus look like Nick Saban in comparison.
He also doesn’t believe in NIL which leads me to believe that he is incapable of adapting to the ever changing landscape of college athletics.
He also doesn’t believe in NIL which leads me to believe that he is incapable of adapting to the ever changing landscape of college athletics.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 8:06 am
Posted on 7/31/22 at 8:20 am to TailbackU
quote:No proof of that
He’s made improvements in our roster and depth
quote:No proof of that
His strength and conditioning program is light years better than Gus’
quote:No proof of that either
and he improved the staff from year one to year two.
quote:Excuses, however i do like the players he has signed up so far. He has done well in the transfer portal though.
Most of the recruiting woes we have are due to a coup attempt he had nothing to do with.
quote:5 straight losses in a row, worst blown lead in Auburn history against MSU, not going for the win in OT vs bama, running off Bo, poor recruiting, poor coaching down the stretch...Hate is a strong word. Disappointed or did not meet expectations would be more applicable. The "scandal" didnt help his case either.
Why all the hate?
If he wants to win back the fanbase, all he has to do is win.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 8:35 am to ChexMix
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all he has to do is win.
(T'was a Big Cry Weekend for the rest.)
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:25 am to TailbackU
The "fire him after one year" crowd is such a joke. IF that was our mindset...........
Bruce would not be here
year 1.........15-20 (fire his arse)
year 2..........11-20 (damn sure fire his arse)
year 3.......18-14 (he is 44-54 after three years. Eff him. Fire his arse)
Butch would not be here
year 1..........23-33 8-22 (only 8 wins in conf.? first year HC. He can't cut it in this league. fire his arse)
Bruce would not be here
year 1.........15-20 (fire his arse)
year 2..........11-20 (damn sure fire his arse)
year 3.......18-14 (he is 44-54 after three years. Eff him. Fire his arse)
Butch would not be here
year 1..........23-33 8-22 (only 8 wins in conf.? first year HC. He can't cut it in this league. fire his arse)
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:44 am to MrAUTigers
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The "fire him after one year" crowd is such a joke. IF that was our mindset........... Bruce would not be here year 1.........15-20 (fire his arse) year 2..........11-20 (damn sure fire his arse) year 3.......18-14 (he is 44-54 after three years. Eff him. Fire his arse)
This is such a painfully bad take. How do you Harsin cuppers come up with this shite?
-What did Bruce inherit and what did Harshin inherit? Harsin inherited a program with an 8 win floor that was expected to recruit and you must’ve known that because you constantly defended Gus. Even had Gus as your profile picture. Is there a reason why you didn’t have Tony Barbee as your profile picture?
-What did Bruce do for the Volunteers that afforded him more time onn his leash? On the other hand what has Harsin done up to this point ? Successfully beat the San Jose State schools?
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year 1..........23-33 8-22 (only 8 wins in conf.? first year HC. He can't cut it in this league. fire his arse)
See point. Number one and two.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:48 am to jangalang
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-What did Bruce inherit and what did Harshin inherit?
A QB with horrible mechanics with no backup. A pathetic OL. A painfully untalented WR room. No DE's. Other than that, a decent roster.
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-What did Bruce do for the Volunteers that afforded him more time onn his leash? On the other hand what has Harsin done up to this point ?
only has the third highest winning percentage in the nation behind dabo and saban. Other than that, not much.
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Successfully beat the San Jose State schools?
True. It was a bad hire. We are known for going out and getting established/successful P5 HC's. You can go all the way back to Barfield to prove that point.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:54 am to jangalang
Jang, that was obviously a horrible take.
We all agree it’s more difficult to change the mindset or entitlement of 85 people. Obviously losing QB hurt the last half of season, but so did poor coaching decisions.
Point is, we mostly agree it was time to move from Gus, want Harsin to succeed, but if Harsin is the guy, he needs to improve in several areas quickly!
We all agree it’s more difficult to change the mindset or entitlement of 85 people. Obviously losing QB hurt the last half of season, but so did poor coaching decisions.
Point is, we mostly agree it was time to move from Gus, want Harsin to succeed, but if Harsin is the guy, he needs to improve in several areas quickly!
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:56 am to MrAUTigers
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only has the third highest winning percentage in the nation behind dabo and saban. Other than that, not much.
A nonP5 winning percentage doesn’t mean shite in the SEC. You might as well compare the likes of Coach Kilmer to Nick Saban at that point.
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True. It was a bad hire. We are known for going out and getting established/successful P5 HC's. You can go all the way back to Barfield to prove that point.
Once again it is only you complaining about Hasksins not getting the same length in their leash as Butch and Bruce.
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A QB with horrible mechanics with no backup. A pathetic OL. A painfully untalented WR room. No DE's. Other than that, a decent roster.
And amazingly, Gus was your guy.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:58 am to jangalang
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And amazingly, Gus was your guy.
WTF are you talking about? You are the one always talking about how "Gus would have done this or that".
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 9:59 am
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