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re: Message for all of the Gus boys

Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:29 am to
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11430 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:29 am to
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I have continually said until we are able to recruit in the top 5 consistently we will be up and down with an opportunity to win the west about every 4-5 years, and win the conference about every 8-10 years.

Our worse recruiting class since 2015, is 12th in the COUNTRY. If you are waiting on top 5 classed every year, then you are in for a long, arse wait.
Explain why we've not recruited and signed more OL? Every year, we have to scour the JUCO schools and grad transfers, to get someone to plug a hole in our OL because we didn't recruit or sign.

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And no I’m never embarrassed by AU. Never by the coaches. Both players and staff work their asses off regardless of result. None want to lose and none ever quit. So all the hair on fire I’m so embarrassed group keep going yall good folks in my book just don’t take it so personal that someone disagrees with you.

Gus has taken QBs with huge ceilings and natural raw ability, and made them worse. Of this, I am extremely embarrassed. I don't care how hard Gus works, he's not getting the job done. I am extremely embarrassed by the playcalling also. A book could be written about the boneheaded gametime decisions he's made over the years, especially considering what our HC is being paid. I'm also embarrassed that we needed a blown call to win against a bad Arky team, and got beaten by a USC team so bad, they fired their coach mid-season. Hell, Tennessee was knocking on the door to take the lead, late in the game, and it took a 100yd pick 6 to turn it around. Do I even need to remind you that he trotted out Carlson on Saturday for an attempt, that if successful, would have been the longest of his career, and if not, would give Alabama great field position? We know what happened.

How many years have we all noticed that passing tree is more akin to pee wee football, than a P5 team? WE JUST STARTED RUNNING SLANTS, FOR GOD'S SAKE! TE has been an afterthought as a receiver until this year. How many different OCs do we need to go thru before the light bulb comes on, an people realize Gus' system is the issue?

I am in agreement with you that everyone probably works really hard, but then again, so does the retard that Goodwill employs. I don't see anyone putting that dude in as CEO. There is no way Gus can remain at the helm if you want Auburn to progress forward. It far more likely that we will regress if he stays, than the opposite. I'm embarrassed that we have some in our fanbase that continue to make excuses for failure.








Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
7842 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:32 am to
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Our worse recruiting class since 2015, is 12th in the COUNTRY. If you are waiting on top 5 classed every year, then you are in for a long, arse wait.


You're right, but I think he is too. That's just our current situation as long as Nick Saban is the coach at Bama.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 8:33 am
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11430 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:37 am to
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Time will tell but I still contend, its going to be tough to get another coach to bring the good like Malzahn did to a program that didnt sniff a championship in 50 years other than the years they were on probation

Loser mentality. Sounds like you'd fit in great with the current BOT.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61505 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:41 am to
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Man you love some Gus



Are you saying its not true? Its more to do with the good that has been here the past 10 years.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11430 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:47 am to
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You're right, but I think he is too. That's just our current situation as long as Nick Saban is the coach at Bama.

We don't need top 5 classes every year, to be in contention. A consistent top 15 class WITH competent coaching should have us with a good shot of winning the West, and not losing to a bad USC, a bad LSU on the road, a bad Tennessee at home, and getting blown out by Alabama everyother year.

Competing with Alabama and their almost #1 recruiting class every year is one thing, being middle of the pack consistently is a whole other animal. We are at USC, OM, and MS level right now, and have been for a while, even with far more talent.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3596 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 9:12 am to
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Lanier and I get cracked up at the every week someone new that won a game pops up as the next AU coach and regardless what you think most coaches out there will be a huge downgrade from Gus. Watch and see.



Dear God, this is the world of stupidity that we live in.

We have the most empirically AVERAGE head coach imaginable who is in year 8 and losing momentum on a yearly and now weekly basis, and we actually have self proclaimed "smart" fans not only suggesting that there aren't a multitude of options available that would at minimum produce equally average results, but that we'll actually REGRET making a change.

Not only do the pure numbers in about 12+ different metrics conclude that Malzahn isn't anything more than average, his entire tenure here has showcased a wide variety of absolutely reprehensible coaching deficiencies which show that he is in fact completely and utterly incompetent. You want me to list a few out for you?

1) Absolutely zero year over year roster building. No ability to plan for deficiencies or create a lasting product. OL recruiting has been in shambles for about 5 years now and yet our "answer" is to continue running to 1-2 year patchwork grad transfers. We have more fricking TE's on the roster than Tackles, and we throw to the ball to the position maybe twice a game. Every season its a revolving door of starting over from scratch SOMEWHERE on the field: one year we'll have a DL but no LB's, the next year we'll have LB's but no DB's. If we have DB's and LB's, the DL is in a rebuild. The OL is basically a question mark every single season. RB's? We have 4+ four stars on the roster at all times, and yet somehow every season our entire offense is dependent on one back staying healthy.

2) Complete inability at the most important position on the field - the Quarterback. We have an "offensive minded" HC who can't evaluate, develop, OR utilize the position whatsoever. This doesn't even need to be expanded on any further because the revolving door of players at the position who all show the exact same deficiencies and zero progression from freshman to senior seasons is mind blowing.

3) Complete inability to interpret his own roster. What do we even do all spring/summer in training camp? Every season there is a ~4 game buffer period we need to play through just to evaluate who can even do what on offense and what our style of play will be. Even with Cam and Marshall, it took our idiot savant HC 3+ games to figure out that we could just run up and down the field on everyone. Lets now tie all of this back to the infamous 2016 Clemson game: we spent all offseason evaluating our roster only to come out with a gameplan that resulted in 5 different players - including a fricking FB - taking a snap at QB. This is like 1A HS "fire the coach" type of clown-shite; and its coming from our SEC HC who we're supposed to be deathly afraid of replacing? Really?

4) The mindset of a complete loser who passes all responsibility off of himself. Our head coach is a weasel with zero interest in anything other than preserving his own self image. If any of you guys actually watch the games - you will notice that we very often concede losses but play to minimize the margin of defeat so that Malzahn can save face. We literally play for field goals (it just happened against Bama) in games wherein we should be throwing everything including the kitchen sink. Why? So our HC can do his little interview after the game and celebrate how we played a close game against a "tough opponent", and of course, "we've got to get better - and we will". Now lets go even deeper and bring up the revolving door of OC's he's brought in to eventually throw under the bus to buy himself more time. All of them are running some variation of Malzahn's own offense - but yet when the results became intolerable, the answer is always that we need one of Malzahn's other "friends". There is always an excuse for every loss, and at no point in time has any criticism been absorbed by the HC himself. "We're a young team" (5+ years into his tenure), "We've got to get better" (in a game with absolutely horrendous play-calling and scheming), etc, etc. Teams take on the personality of their head coach - and yet people question how year after year our players don't look ready to play. They're confused on the field. They're happy to be talking trash after making a hit on a 15 yard pass completion while losing the game to fricking South Carolina. No shite we exhibit all of those qualities - because that is Malzahn in a nutshell. You're surprised that players look unprepared playing for a HC who trotted out 5 different players in a single game at quarterback?

That is just 4 things off the top of my head, but that list could be expanded further. The above are qualities that make or break a HC with no further questions whatsoever. Its like when you go for your driving test - you're allowed a certain number of small mistakes and as long as you don't make too many of them, you can still pass. However, fail to make a proper stop at a stop sign - and its an auto-fail. When you come in as an offensive minded HC who does nothing on the defensive side of the football and you can't comprehend that an offense can't function without OL and QB play, then that is an auto-fail my guy.


Now, I knew I said that we'd omit the actual empirical analysis of why he is conclusively the definition of average, but if you want to take a look at some of those as well as the proverbial "cherry on top":


This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 9:17 am
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3596 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 10:05 am to
Also, another fun fact:

COVID has thoroughly exposed Gus Malzahn - the "Recruiter". This was one of his biggest question marks coming into this job because he's a certified beta weirdo who lacks the traditional personality that most successful recruiting HC's possess. Nevertheless, throughout his tenure, regardless of the complete failures we've shown, his "above average" recruiting has been propped up as a reason why we can't do any better than him. Now, what we're actually seeing due to COVID is that Malzahn is a guy who requires the physical presence of Auburn ITSELF - the campus, the community, the tradition that was here long before he ever got the job - to actually recruit successfully. No team has seen a bigger COVID-related drop off in recruiting than our own. And before anyone brings up some clown show excuse about how we're the only school in the country that requires recruits to visit the campus, let me tell you right now that that is a completely bullshite excuse. No recruit on the planet is choosing to go to Alabama because of the glitz and glamour of Tuscaloosa. They go there because of the HC, and when the HC has that level of selling power in HIMSELF and his SYSTEM of success, it doesn't fricking matter whether the kid can visit the campus or not. Without the sales pitch of Auburn itself - all Malzahn can sell is himself. And we are witnessing that that is a pretty sad package (and does that really surprise anyone?)

COVID has proven that Malzahn benefits from Auburn on the recruiting trail - NOT the other way around. fricking Jeremy Pruitt who hasn't done anything as a HC, coaching for a program that hasn't had been relevant in a decade, has a recruiting class currently ranked 10 whole spots higher than us. And they're fricking 2-5 on the season and the fanbase wants to fire him. Explain that to me, please.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 10:08 am
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
7842 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 10:06 am to
quote:

We don't need top 5 classes every year, to be in contention. A consistent top 15 class WITH competent coaching should have us with a good shot of winning the West, and not losing to a bad USC, a bad LSU on the road, a bad Tennessee at home, and getting blown out by Alabama everyother year.

Competing with Alabama and their almost #1 recruiting class every year is one thing, being middle of the pack consistently is a whole other animal. We are at USC, OM, and MS level right now, and have been for a while, even with far more talent.



So your goal for our program is to just play closer games with Bama and never be upset by a lesser team? Weird and arbitrary.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 10:24 am to
I don't think he is saying that at all.

I think he is just being realistic that we have not ever been a consistent top 5 level recruiting program, so being a top 10 will allow us to be a top level team with the right coaching.

I am sure, if we somehow hit the jackpot and we get a great recruiter coach that can get us into the top 5 he wants that too.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11430 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 10:39 am to
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So your goal for our program is to just play closer games with Bama and never be upset by a lesser team? Weird and arbitrary.
Stop be obtuse. We will never be a real threat to Alabama as long as Gus is at the helm. The more glaring issue is, we aren't a threat to UGA even when they are shitty, and even a horrible TN and USC team can now march into Jordan-Hare with a higher than normal confidence.

If you enjoy the occasional last second, freaky win every now and then, and the rest of the time, getting blown off the field by Alabama, then Gus is your man. If you enjoy the excitement of a close game, with the uncertainty of a win against crappy teams, then Gus is your huckleberry.

Let me ask you this, are you confident that Auburn will beat Miss State? I won't even ask you about TAM, because it would take a orange & blue glasses wearing retard to believe Auburn has a good chance of winning that game.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42548 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 10:47 am to
And secondary, I look at Mac vs Bo. Bo has regressed with Mac being a Heisman contender. Sans the Bama game, we should have beat every other team so far this season.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16498 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 10:54 am to
Hey dickwad.... I have a “retard” with a 52 IQ that I hope Goodwill would give an opportunity to work. He’s a great person, smart in his own way, and makes friends easily. Heart pure as gold. Sorry you don’t have the intelligence to realize that there are parents out there that struggle with with this aspect of life. Maybe one day when you grow up you’ll stop using ignorant words like that. Some things are bigger then your hobby of watching football but saying retard or even mocking anyone with a condition that they have no control over is barbaric. If you used the N word on here you’d probably be banned. To parents of special needs children find it worse then the N word trust me on that. And I would never wish that on anyone but I hope you find a special needs child or even adult, my step son turns 18 on Wednesday, hopefully you find someone like him to get to know and love them tell me about the Retards at Goodwill.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24732 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:08 am to
Retarded post is retarded.


Posted by Awesome Dave
Auburn, AL
Member since Sep 2014
891 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:15 am to
Jesus what an a-hole you are.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16498 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:18 am to
Yes the word triggers me. Thanks pointing out what a complete a-hole looks like. Some of you act like fricking 5 year olds.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24732 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:24 am to
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Yes the word triggers me. Thanks pointing out what a complete a-hole looks like. Some of you act like fricking 5 year olds.


You have done nothing but bitch and moan since you signed up on this site so I have zero qualms will firing back and pushing your buttons.


This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 11:26 am
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42548 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:27 am to
would have loved to see you post on the rant before we had our own board.
Posted by Awesome Dave
Auburn, AL
Member since Sep 2014
891 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:31 am to
I wouldn't cite the Rant as an example of reasonable behavior.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16498 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:35 am to
So disagreeing with someone is bitching and moaning. And I’m the triggered on. Got it thanks for clearing that up. I haven’t bitched about shite except the ignorance of discussing firing Gus in every thread when people want to discuss something else but idiots like yourself have to come into every thread and muh fire Gus. My time will be short here. Trying to make it to the end of the season then I’ll be gone until Gus is gone then I will come back and point and laugh at y’all idiots. Bank on it. So no worries my time is short and y’all can have your circle jerk without me interrupting.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11430 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:36 am to
Sorry but this "dickwad" doesn't subscribed to politically correct BS.

People who can't walk, are crippled. Doesn't mean I think less of them, it's just a fact, regardless of the word used to describe their condition. As much as I'm sure they are great people, and a person I would gladly call my friend, I'm not expecting Auburn to sign a crippled place kicker, or would I expect Goodwill to place one of their retarded workers at the CEO position.

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