greygoose

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the panican is strong with this one. I don’t think people are interpreting Trump’s point correctly.

He is clearly fixated on the certain jobs that need foreign workers to teach Americans because the knowledge has been lost. The South Korea issue in Georgia was top of mind and i’m sure the South Koreans made it a point during their trade talks.

Everyone is ignoring the first two words Trump uttered - “I agree”. He agrees that in general, we can’t mass import foreign workers. I think he just wanted to make the point that there are examples where it’s actually necessary.

Lastly, if you think Stephen Miller isn’t on top of this and in Trump’s ear, you’re crazy. Everything will be fine.

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Agreed! Importing highly skill tech workers is a universe away from open borders and letting in leeches that suck the taxpayer dry. Also, if memory serves me correctly, the price to get an H1B is $150K. Whole lot of short-sighted people on here.

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You were justifying offshoring and H1Bs taking American jobs at half the market rate, now you’re bitching about the remaining jobs in the service industry paying enough to maybe qualify for a shithole studio apartment instead of section 8? Do you even know how much $15 an hour even is anymore, or is your mind still stuck in 1995 dollars?

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I see Econ 101 didn't go so well for you, did it? If your skill set limits you to flipping burgers, an H1B is not exactly your biggest problem. Care to guess what happens when a business can't sell it's product or service at a profit? They shut down or reduce staff. If you are a grown adult and are bitching about your wages at your fast food job, the mirror has all the answers to why you are where you are at in life. Life is tough already, even tougher if you are stupid.

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Greg’s a nurse

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:rotflmao: Nope! Didn't follow that line after serving as a USN Hospital Corpsman. Anchors Away & Semper Fi!

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The average American doesn’t have what it takes to make it through pre med in college, much less medical school which is 10x harder.

I can attest to this because I did it. I also saw who I grew up with and how hardly anyone else had a snowballs chance of accomplishing it.

They give the slots to foreigners because they make the test scores that the residency/fellowship program directors require to rank them high on their match list.

Go walk around Harvard’s campus sometime and you’ll notice the majority of the students are Asian. They bust their arse and make the test scores needed to get in.

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My friend, we are arguing with mouth breathers. They have no idea what they are talking about. Knee-jerk reactionaries that haven't a clue about what it takes to do certain professions and the effort involved to get to that place.

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But if H1B was gone americans would take those jobs at slightly higher salaries

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The problem is, there aren't enough. A small percentage of intelligent kids are not pursuing the career path that qualifies them for that job. They are seeking instant gratification. As little effort as possible. Hell, a lot of them are confused about which bathroom to use! Too worried about the next tattoo design or color of dye for their hair. Meanwhile, Little Mr. Patel and Miss Sung Ho is in fear of bringing home an A- in calculus.

Ever wonder why the Roman Empire fell? We are reliving history, and it's all our own fault!

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Social Sciences

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Thanks for proving my point.

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I remember reading something that said Chinese kids are striving to be engineers while American kids just want to be influencers

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Charles Barkley touched on this a few years ago. He went to schools to talk to kids, and was amazed when he asked a classroom of HS students what they wanted to do with their life. Google it. I just had a customer in my office the other day. Him and his wife were telling me about their adult kids. The daughter is accomplished, taking on roles they never saw coming. The 31 y/o son describes himself as the "stay at home child". They didn't seem to have a problem with that. It's a story is all too common these days.

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Trump is correct

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Unfortunately, I have to agree. Few of our best and brightest are going into fields that matter. Whereas countries like India and China are pressing their kids with aptitude into engineers and doctors. A lot of ours are lost in screentime, eating cheetos in mom's basement and smoking dope. The average intelligence with purpose, are seeking gender studies degrees. We have a culture problem.

5. Archie, Cooper, Eli, Peyton, and Arch.

Not so sure they want to play this game. We have, what, 4 bases in their country? We have satellites. Has the UK ever even launched a rocket into space? For arguments sake, let's say we decide to call their bluff and agree to a mutual non-sharing of intel. Who is taking the bigger hit?