re: Message for all of the Gus boys

Goose, Meta and Chex, who do you think we should get as the next coach?

Meta, I know you want Cristobal (and I think he would be a really good choice), but I don't think we could get him to come. Who would be your second choice?

I asked Luke, who is also very pro fire Gus now, but I never got an answer.

If you want Freeze or Meyer, please give a second choice as well. Freeze has too much baggage for us, and Meyer has bigger fish to fry (Texas or USC).

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And this is obviously wrong even to an idiot.

Not mention it's irrelevant. Would you have the same opinions or care a lot less if Gus was making, idk, 3.6 million a year? Would Gus still be here if that's all he was making?

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You are kinda slow, aren't you?

One minute, you say Gus can't be fired due to his buyout, then you turn around and say he's not overpaid.

Trust me, no university, outside of Auburn, is going give Gus a $49 million contract, much less $7 million a year. Gus' next stop will be at a mid-major type school. He's making Saban-money and getting Muschamp results.

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We must tolerate our overpaid, loser coach, and be intolerant of words! PC Police Lanier has spoken!

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How hard is it to understand saying certain things makes you an a-hole? No one is encouraging government regulation of your words, dude.

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He's making Saban-money and getting Muschamp results.

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No need to bend the truth.

Let's look-

Saban gets $8.7m for a .878 record at bama
Muschamp gets $4.4m for a .483 record at USC
Malzahn gets $6.8m for a .663 record at AU

ETA- I'm no Gus supporter, but damn. I fairly certain some of you need help.

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I'm partial to Bill Clark at UAB.

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All this thrash for Bill Clark?

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No need to bend the truth.

Let's look-

Saban gets $8.7m for a .878 record at bama
Muschamp gets $4.4m for a .483 record at USC
Malzahn gets $6.8m for a .663 record at AU

ETA- I'm no Gus supporter, but damn. I fairly certain some of you need help.

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Saban makes $1.9 million more than Gus. Saban has 6 nattys, and a shitload of SEC championships. Gus has zero and 1, respectively, and made $2.2 million more than Muschamp who has zero & zero.

To be clear, Gus is closer to Muschamp than he will ever be to Saban. Yet, he made considerably more will little,to no discernible difference in outcome.

Let me ask you this, do you think Muschamp would've won more as HC at Auburn or USC?

Chex - Can you give a second selection as well? Venables hasn't shown an interest in moving to head coach this far, and he makes almost $2.5M as an assistant coach. Maybe he could be convinced, but let's say he keeps with his past track record. Who's next on your list?

Goose - I don't agree with you, but I wasn't asking so I could debate you. I thank you for your response.

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All this thrash for Bill Clark?

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Take a look at Saban's record before coming to LSU. Not exactly awe-inspiring. His best season was 9-2 with beatdown losses to Purdue & Wisconsin. His other seasons there were 6–5–1, 6–6, and 7–5.

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You could say this defend almost any hire

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Nope. You have to examine their entire resume to get a more accurate picture. Although Saban's record at Michigan State was not world beating, he greatly improved the program from what it was. Same thing at Alabama, but by that time he was very established as a premier coach. If you look at Clark's resume, he's turned programs around EVERYWHERE he's been. He may never end up at Auburn, but somebody is going to get a great coach. Don't be surprised if you don't hear his name brought up for the Caroline job.

We hired a coach, that had only one year of college HC experience. He inherited the job from Freeze who had already built it up to succeed. Hiring OCs and DCs, as first time HC, isn't exactly a great ROI. Case in point, name one of Saban's many OCs or DCs that have had major success. Kirby has done the best, but there have been a ton of failures.

Petersen retire last year due to anxiety and stress. I don't think the SEC would be his cup of tea if he came back.

I am with AuburnNYC that we should give Gus another year due to financial shortfalls and future uncertainties. But if we did buy out Gus and want a coach that will win, Freeze is that answer. But with his past, our national image of violations (I still see people saying we offered Cam $180K ) and optics of pandemic and budget constraints, I cannot see us hiring Freeze.