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re: Hardy / Handy / Thompson in transfer portal
Posted on 5/6/21 at 10:35 am to jt33
Posted on 5/6/21 at 10:35 am to jt33
Sounds like Harsin is requiring guys to show up on time and do workouts, practice, and other football shite. Some of the Gus-boys don't like it. Glad they are moving on. I wish them well at their FCS school of choice.
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 10:40 am to AUCE05
Yeah I'm sure our other coaches didn't require those things 
Posted on 5/6/21 at 10:47 am to wareaglepete
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I am hopeful Harsin has a plan that will work. He is already out of his element in recruiting and we are not lighting the recruiting world on fire yet. If we have a crap season, that will not help any. If Harsin doesn't get the recruiting sorted out, I don't care how good a coach he is, we will have a rocky number of years ahead of us. Right now, I am not optimistic, but always hopeful.
He's out of his element? What does that mean?
He just got here. Starting from scratch...trying to rebuild a broken program.
Did you mean he doesn't know what he is doing? That's a poor evaluation so early in his coaching career here...
Posted on 5/6/21 at 10:49 am to jt33
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Kamal Hadden transferring now. Nothing to see here though. Who needs depth and a potential starter for next year anyway.
Does every transfer require a negative comment from you? Or are you auditioning for a stand up comedian job? lol....
Posted on 5/6/21 at 10:50 am to jt33
Appreantly they did not
Posted on 5/6/21 at 10:51 am to AuSteeler
quote:I'm with Lanier on this one. When did we become a broken program?
He just got here. Starting from scratch...trying to rebuild a broken program.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 10:51 am to AuSteeler
quote:I didn't say anything about Garnett transferring for whats its worth. Just the guys I see as being valuable.
Does every transfer require a negative comment from you? Or are you auditioning for a stand up comedian job? lol....
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:00 am to jt33
I'm with Lanier on this one. When did we become a broken program?
Broken in the sense that we are not competing consistently with the big dogs, and end up being mainly average during Gus' term.
I debated whether to write 'broken' to explain how I see it. But it may be more of 'promising but ending up disappointed' program.. :)
Broken in the sense that we are not competing consistently with the big dogs, and end up being mainly average during Gus' term.
I debated whether to write 'broken' to explain how I see it. But it may be more of 'promising but ending up disappointed' program.. :)
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:11 am to AuSteeler
Who is Kamal Hadden?
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:17 am to jt33
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I didn't say anything about Garnett transferring for whats its worth. Just the guys I see as being valuable.
"Valuable" at what cost?
Here's the problem with people like you: you want "culture change", but then as soon as some shithead player gets told to leave, you run back and want them on the team because "they provide depth". A new coach CAN NOT change the culture by coming in and then immediately handing out free passes to kids because "oh no, who are we going to play?".
The coach literally came out a week ago and flat out said that there were "5 or 6" players that don't even show up. Sorry bro, those guys can't be kept on the team. It doesn't matter what the depth is or how many stars they have.
Your entire perspective is that the head coach should bend depending on the ability of the player in question. That's kind of how you get to the position we were in under the last coach. He has ONE CHANCE to set the expectations for the team - and its from day one on the job. This isn't some shite where he gets to hand everyone a free pass in year one because the roster looks shaky, but don't worry, he'll change the culture over time. Doesn't happen that way and can't happen that way. The guys who survive this season will KNOW what the expectation is, and they'll actually set those expectations for the future oncoming players. That's how a culture is built.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:17 am to jangalang
3 star juco who nobody knows is good or not
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:21 am to jt33
Why are you so whiny about this? Were you somehow oblivious to the fact that teams generally have kids that transfer when they have a program overhaul?
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:25 am to metafour
quote:Those words never came out of my mouth. I've said the opposite actually. We had a great culture and proven by our kids never quitting in any games and very little off field problems.
Here's the problem with people like you: you want "culture change"
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:29 am to jangalang
Our top CB recruit last year, a JUCO player with 3 years left to play I believe, and a guy who most likely would have been a starter next year. Our top 3 CBs can go pro after this season.. that means CB is a major need for us this cycle now.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:30 am to jt33
quote:Seems like they do have off the field problems by not showing up on time to workouts etc. And if a coach let's it slide and they play then others will take that attitude and you will never gain that back. It is better to cull the herd and establish your culture because that way the players you gain in the future will maintain that culture. The time of show up and hope your raw talent will prevail is over. It is time to get back to the days of Dye where you work hard and play tough. That will help these kids through life and in their future whatever that will be.
very little off field problems
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:32 am to jt33
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Those words never came out of my mouth. I've said the opposite actually. We had a great culture and proven by our kids never quitting in any games and very little off field problems.
I kinda understand where you are coming from now...
I agree Gus can add a stable run program to his positive side of his resume, so I guess that is one part of 'culture'.
But in Harsin's logic, 'culture' seems to be more than just keeping good kids in the program. He also seems to include attention to detail, working hard, being disciplined in your training and approach. There are probably others.
And because 'culture' can involve so many aspects, some of these players aren't willing to put in the 'work' to create this culture. Ofc, some of these players transferring also are including where they are on the depth chart.
So its normal to see these players leave. Notice, I don't think any player that would be considered a 'starter' has entered the portal....
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:33 am to jt33
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Those words never came out of my mouth. I've said the opposite actually. We had a great culture and proven by our kids never quitting in any games and very little off field problems.
Wow, so you're even more lost than I gave you credit for.
If you remember that Harsin was at the Auburn/Northwestern game. He was mind blown at what he saw on the field. If you remember in that game, we had guys dancing on the bench...as they were losing to Northwestern. Same shite you saw all season. You think we had a GOOD CULTURE LOL? Explain to me how we were a 5-loss team these past few seasons, then?
We were a horrendously SOFT and UNDISCIPLINED team. Our top recruits didn't translate into top players and NFL picks because the last coach didn't work them hard enough. Let guys practice as hard as they wanted to practice. No shite so many of them were "sad" that Gus left, it was pretty comfortable playing at Auburn. You think its "comfortable" at Alabama?
Posted on 5/6/21 at 1:06 pm to AuSteeler
He is now in the water with the sharks being in the Southeast. Not just sharks, but great whites. I am not saying he won't turn out to be a great recruiter, I am hopeful, but he is not used to recruiting against the likes of which he is up against now.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 1:10 pm to metafour
I think some misconstrue culture for character. You can have good kids and still not have a good culture conducive to winning. I believe Malzahn did for the most part have high character young men playing for him but I do not believe they were pushed to excel or particularly disciplined in the every day aspects of being a college football player.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 1:18 pm to metafour
quote:Based on what I've heard from Arky fans, this is exactly the approach Chad Morris took.
he gets to hand everyone a free pass in year one because the roster looks shaky, but don't worry, he'll change the culture over time.
We saw how that worked out.
Harsin was a way-out-of-the-box hire for AU, which in and of itself was a huge culture change. We're paying him $5 large to do things his way and install his own culture.
Personally, I'm giving him more than a few months before declaring it a failure.
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