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Posted on 5/6/21 at 1:37 pm to makersmark1
Posted on 5/6/21 at 1:37 pm to makersmark1
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I know Dye ran off some players, but I don’t remember this story.
Discipline was non existent when he came in. I think it was Cribbs got busted for smoking spliffs in Sewell hall so they transferred him to Mag hall (for better supervision they moved him AWAY from the coaches?), got busted again and moved back to Sewell. I was at an apt party and the DL was shatfaced and was playing the next day.
Dye set curfew and Marshall broke it. He said 100 stadium steps, when he described what it was Marshall said he was not doing it and Dye took his scholly right there, in front of the whole team, and he was one of our best DL.
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 2:06 pm to trinidadtiger
quote:Had a friend who was a highly recruited LB who signed in Shug's last year. Ended up getting hurt, working his way back into shape, only to see the program falling apart (apparently Marshall was typical, if a player was considered 'valuable' they could get away with pretty much anything).
Discipline was non existent when he came in.
Finally Barfield lied to him straight up about his position on the depth chart going into his SR season in 1980. Said frick it, it ain't worth getting hurt again, and ended up watching the trainwreck that was that season from the stands.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 2:16 pm to metafour
quote:How many of those guys are even still on the team? They danced so now the entire program has a culture issue? Not buying it. We we're a 5 loss team because we had no OL and the offense got predicable.
If you remember that Harsin was at the Auburn/Northwestern game. He was mind blown at what he saw on the field. If you remember in that game, we had guys dancing on the bench...as they were losing to Northwestern. Same shite you saw all season. You think we had a GOOD CULTURE LOL? Explain to me how we were a 5-loss team these past few seasons, then?
We were a horrendously SOFT and UNDISCIPLINED team. Our top recruits didn't translate into top players and NFL picks because the last coach didn't work them hard enough. Let guys practice as hard as they wanted to practice. No shite so many of them were "sad" that Gus left, it was pretty comfortable playing at Auburn. You think its "comfortable" at Alabama?
So Iggy, Thomas, Dean, Davis, Brown, Davidson etc didn't translate into top players and NFL picks? Pappoe, Koby, McCreary, Pritchett, etc aren't looking like they are following the same path? We have work to do as a team, but yall really have to stop acting like we are a dumpster fire. This is and has been a good team.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 2:40 pm to jt33
quote:It really wasn't in 2020, which is why Gustav is in Orlando now.
This is and has been a good team.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 3:49 pm to jt33
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This is and has been a good team.
No it wasn't.
We never beat a team with a winning record in 2020, so how does that make us a good team? Results don't count?
Posted on 5/6/21 at 4:19 pm to AuSteeler
Any team with a winning record against an all SEC schedule if by definition not a bad team. Plenty of things to improve and lots of holes, but not bad.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 5:13 pm to jt33
quote:It is if the only teams you beat were bad teams:
Any team with a winning record against an all SEC schedule if by definition not a bad team.
LSU 5-5 (ironically, the only team we beat decisively)
Ole Miss 4-5
UK 4-6
MSU 3-7
Arky 3-7
UT 3-7
And we lost to a team worse than all of the above: SC (whose only other win was against 0-9 Vandy)
We were not a good team, by yours or any other definition.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 5:14 pm to jt33
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So Iggy, Thomas, Dean, Davis, Brown, Davidson etc didn't translate into top players and NFL picks?
That solid defense got punked by 3 stars in the bowl game. And their DC (the better half of Gus) is still without a job. We could’ve been so much better.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:01 pm to jangalang
quote:To be fair, it’s likely because he wants to be.
And their DC (the better half of Gus) is still without a job.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:03 pm to jt33
quote:There’s no standard definition. This is simply an opinion. My opinion is that we were a bad football team because we did not play up to our expectation.
Any team with a winning record against an all SEC schedule if by definition not a bad team.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:26 pm to Rig
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To be fair, it’s likely because he wants to be.
Tennessee gave him 860,000 dollars to leave. Hadn’t coached a single game yet. Apparently Auburn still owes him 4 million. Yeah, he probably doesnt want to coach anymore.
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:54 pm to jangalang
quote:Tends to happen when the coach that hired him gets fired.
Tennessee gave him 860,000 dollars to leave. Hadn’t coached a single game yet.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 7:25 pm to Rig
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Tends to happen when the coach that hired him gets fired.
Getting a buyout before coaching a single game does not tend to happen. AFIK no suitors come running after him since.
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:07 pm to jangalang
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Slow rebuild is better than a slow decline.
This.
I'd rather have slow, steady, progress FORWARD, than a steady decline. Or, at very best, a completely stagnant program that never delivers on it's promise of progress and underperforms (relative to the talent on the field) every other week.
Honestly, I'm excited to just see something different. As I said above, the inconsistency and the head scratcher games are infinitely more frustrating to me. To see the team play out of their minds and beat really good teams on occasion only to get absolutely embarrassed by big rivals and lesser teams sucks arse. I'd rather see a consistent, competitive, disciplined team out there every Saturday (and hopefully that's what this staff can get out of their teams) than the complete roll of the dice we had over the last staff.
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:30 pm to IAmNERD
Yep
...and not automatically dreading the away games.
...and not automatically dreading the away games.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:27 pm to AuSteeler
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But in Harsin's logic, 'culture' seems to be more than just keeping good kids in the program. He also seems to include attention to detail, working hard, being disciplined in your training and approach. There are probably others.
And because 'culture' can involve so many aspects, some of these players aren't willing to put in the 'work' to create this culture. Ofc, some of these players transferring also are including where they are on the depth chart.
Kind of mirrors "The Process" that they've implemented over in west Alabama. It's been pretty successful since that standard was set. We've seen several instances of Saban "processing" guys out that didn't buy into the philosophy of the entire program. And it's absolutely the correct way to go.
As you said, you can't have a small group of guys who aren't buying all the way in like everyone else. If you let that behavior slide, you're just giving a green light for guys to abide by their own system and not "the culture" or "the process". That type of thing builds resentment and festers like an infection, then spreads.
Harsin was hired, because he pitched his vision and his own version of the process. So you can't get mad when he starts letting guys go who aren't on board. That is basically sabotaging him before he can implement his system and even see if it works.
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:41 am to FearlessFreep
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It is if the only teams you beat were bad teams:
LSU 5-5 (ironically, the only team we beat decisively)
Ole Miss 4-5
UK 4-6
MSU 3-7
Arky 3-7
UT 3-7
And we lost to a team worse than all of the above: SC (whose only other win was against 0-9 Vandy)
We were not a good team, by yours or any other definition.
That's what I tried to tell 33, but he wouldn't listen...
We were average...which is what most of our years under Gus ended up being...
Posted on 5/8/21 at 2:23 pm to AuSteeler
Tennessee’s version of Owen Pappoe with three years of eligibility just transferred to Bama. That would be devastating.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 6:55 pm to jangalang
The rich get richer, Henry To'o To'o. Leading tackler on the team last year. From cali, chose TN over Bama, so he gets to keep the money and play for Bama, good for him.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 7:07 pm to trinidadtiger
quote:Lame
Henry To'o To'o
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