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re: Hardy / Handy / Thompson in transfer portal

Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:58 am to
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33272 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:58 am to
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We might as well expect a slow rebuild and flush excitement down the toilet for a while.


Correct. I had pretty low expectations for 2021 and this off season has cemented it. Anyone expecting all of the previous players to buy in to a completely new staff and culture are being a little naive
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4080 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:00 am to
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we have at least 3 spots with Garrett transferring too. Doesnt make sense to go after QB, Bo is the starter and their is depth behind him, go after a HS QB. RB we are thin but have good to great RBs. OL and WR is were we need the most help.
No we don't. Transfers don't work that way. There is a hard cap of 25 and we currently have 3 spots left. 1 is assumed to go the guy from Vandy though.
Jason Caldwell said yesterday he thinks we go after a QB transfer now.
Thin isn't even the word for our RB depth right now. We have 1 great RB and 1 good change of pace guy and nothing behind them.
Posted by Zinger
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
61 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:03 am to
I definitely see what you’re saying. Thompson is a loss because he is a guy that played a lot last year (showed potential) and would have been a high rep backup this year and then potentially moved into that Jermian Sherwood role. Difficult part for me is that this one really doesn’t seem like a “in the doghouse” or “not the right fit”, it just seems like to me he wants to be a starter and isn’t satisfied with his backup role. It’s the weird part of the portal to me. You see a lot of guys that lose patience and start making moves prematurely. I think we will be okay, but it does put us in a difficult situation of not really being able to properly fill the holes in the roster.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:06 am to
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Thompson was good enough to get PT as a freshman.. everyone around the program was high on him and he was considered a future started. If thats changed after a few months and these new coaches don't think he can play.. thats on them imo.


Maybe it wasn't ability? Maybe he didn't buy in? Remember when Muschamp left and Steele came in, and there were 3-4 guys that Muschamp didn't like and wouldn't play and Steele did? This happens all the time.

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Its looks like we will have 2 spots to fill RB, OL, WR, DL, and maybe QB.


We have no idea how those position coaches and coordinators feel about their personnel. Caddy has 1 coming in, and maybe he likes Barrett too? Maybe Will Friend likes what he has for this upcoming year with the return of Council? Same for Eason and the rest.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4080 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:12 am to
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We have no idea how those position coaches and coordinators feel about their personnel. Caddy has 1 coming in, and maybe he likes Barrett too? Maybe Will Friend likes what he has for this upcoming year with the return of Council? Same for Eason and the rest.
Its been reported by various people at different times on 247 that we've been looking at taking a transfer at those positions. Things could have changed, but those are still the positions I'm seeing being reported on as far as incoming transfers go. Plus for those of us that watched A day its pretty obvious we need help in those areas anyway.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33272 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:15 am to
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No we don't. Transfers don't work that way. There is a hard cap of 25 and we currently have 3 spots left. 1 is assumed to go the guy from Vandy though.


Undergrad transfers count toward the 25. Grad transfers don’t, for whatever that’s worth. They just count toward the 85. And this year is weirder on the math portion because they’re not counting the super seniors taking the extra eligibility
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4080 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:16 am to
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Undergrad transfers count toward the 25. Grad transfers don’t, for whatever that’s worth. They just count toward the 85. And this year is weirder on the math portion because they’re not counting the super seniors taking the extra eligibility
This is true and a good clarification. Thanks for adding this.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:28 am to
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I suppose it depends on how you define “success”.


I was speaking purely from a football perspective. I get that moving on might be best for some, but whatever holds them back at one school normally goes with them. The portal will probably lessen this curve by the higher volume of transfers. Sort of like the Grad Transfer rule did.

The 10% was only considering non Grad Transfers, which IMO have a better success rate. The numeric wasn't meant to be exact so much as to convey you rarely see a kid disgruntled move on and figure it out.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 8:00 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61505 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 3:54 pm to
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We might as well expect a slow rebuild and flush excitement down the toilet for a while.


Why a slow rebuild? Has Auburn changed? You guys were adamant that Auburn recruits itself and the coach was not a huge part of that just a few months back. We should not accept poor recruiting now. Thats silly

Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15708 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:17 pm to
I’m looking for:

1. Being able to lineup and run a play without wasting a timeout after kickoff return.
2. Minimize false starts, delay of game and other mental penalties.
3. Have an offense where I have no idea what the play is presnap at least half the time.
4. Have a comprehensive passing game with route trees and progressions.
5. Don’t run inside zone on every first down to the boundary.
6. Develop players that are better as sophomores and juniors than they were as freshmen.
7. Don’t turn the ball over.
8. Create turnovers on defense.

Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42548 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:30 pm to
*Note on 6: Recruit HS freshman
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36185 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:54 pm to
Slow rebuild is better than a slow decline.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10911 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:48 am to
I am hopeful Harsin has a plan that will work. He is already out of his element in recruiting and we are not lighting the recruiting world on fire yet. If we have a crap season, that will not help any. If Harsin doesn't get the recruiting sorted out, I don't care how good a coach he is, we will have a rocky number of years ahead of us. Right now, I am not optimistic, but always hopeful.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48868 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:17 am to
It will take him a few years to right the ship. That should be expected.
Posted by TemperdTiger
Montgomery, AL
Member since Oct 2013
1859 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:27 am to
To me it just means walk ons have a chance to get a scholarship if they are working hard enough. ITT this could actually be a boon to their confidence and ability if that's the case
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
4878 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:47 am to
Give CBH some time, from what I have seen he is not the kind of person to not put in the work, back down from a challenge, or fail. He left Boise because he wants championships and he is determined to make it happen.

I wouldnt say he is out of his element recruiting, he did a good job of salvaging a horrible class from Gus's last year here. You are not going to get kids to go to Boise and he seems to know how to find QBs, just look at the Bachmeier kid he got to come to BSU.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34849 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:09 am to
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ITT this could actually be a boon to their confidence and ability if that's the case




Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. We all enjoy a walkon getting a scholarship and whatnot, but acting like it could be a net positive that we are replacing scholarship players with walkons is a net positive is just silly.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13261 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:20 am to
Perhaps Jones was correct and its just Occams Razor, ie kids hitting the portal after they see the starting line ups in the spring.

Thompson is a good example. Everyone saw how good Tennison was playing last year, and he is very versatile, he can play nickel, either safety, kick returns, and even DB in a pinch.
Spring comes, he has knowledge of the new system, is stronger and faster, and wins the safety spot. Thompson is not fast enough for the other positions or he would be playing there, so his option is to sit it out or transfer.

The GT transfer, if we get him, is great news, he beats out Tennison then we have Tennison as a backup for all the aforementioned positions.

There are no players with attitudes or coaches huddled around an Obeah seance (thats Voodoo for you Americans).

Now if you want to talk about a coach sending an attitude adjustment throughout a program and the University at large....look no further than Pat Dye and a fella named Marshall Riley. We all knew there was a new sheriff in town after that first team meeting with Pat Fain Dye, God bless his soul, and Auburn football was back.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15708 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:43 am to
What happened to Marshall Riley?

I know Dye ran off some players, but I don’t remember this story.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4080 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 10:27 am to
Kamal Hadden transferring now. Nothing to see here though. Who needs depth and a potential starter for next year anyway.
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