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Freeze vs Rhule vs Deion

Posted on 8/3/26 at 10:44 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92985 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 10:44 pm
Remember our last coaching search?

In hindsight, each choice was fricking terrible. It almost makes me think Charles Kelly wouldn’t have been a bad choice.

Record vs ranked opponents last 5 years (yes I realize they haven’t been there 5 years):

Colorado 0-16
Nebraska 1-16
Auburn 2-20
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 4:22 am to
Worst period of Auburn football in my life(born in the 1960s).

Barfield was better than Harsin or Freeze.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
7319 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 6:19 am to
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Barfield was better than Harsin or Freeze.


Ironically, if you had Freeze just recruiting and Harsin just coaching, we might have been pretty decent. Neither wanted to do the entire job.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
10091 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 6:47 am to
Not based on what he followed.

Barfield was a miserable choice.
Posted by Fearless_and_True
Steel City
Member since Oct 2017
2521 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Colorado 0-16
Nebraska 1-16
Auburn 2-20


Mind blown insanity
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
21947 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:51 am to
There is a silver lining in the idea that we were doomed to failure no matter what direction we went.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
10359 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:54 am to
At the same time, we were so very close to landing Lane. Yeah, the guy is a dramatic a-hole and honestly I could see him crashing and burning at LSU, but at the same time, I am getting pretty desperate
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
13763 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Barfield was better than Harsin or Freeze.


Understatement. Barfield went 8-3 in ‘79 and those two clowns never even sniffed 8 wins. Barfield went 4-2, 3-2-1, and 4-2 in the SEC ‘77-‘79. Not great but head and shoulders above Harsin or Freeze.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 6:27 pm to
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Barfield was a miserable choice.


Erk Russell would have been my choice.
Posted by Pat Dye 60 minutes
Member since Jun 2026
159 posts
Posted on 8/8/26 at 2:02 pm to
You can also add Wisconsin and Luke Fickell to this list. He was also part of the "Big 4" hires along with Freeze, Deion and Rhule. Wisconsin has been horrible under Fickell but they've given him this year to fix it but I don't think he will. Fickell has beaten 2 ranked teams in his 3 years at Wisconsin and both were last year; Illinois and Washington.

One question; are you viewing a ranked win as the opponent being ranked at the time we beat them or they were ranked in the final polls at the end of the season? The reason I asked is because the stats come out different. Just going by ranked in the AP Poll at the time the game was played, here are some different stats.

Deion's Colorado team beat #17 TCU at TCU in Deion's first game at Colorado. TCU was fresh off a National Title appearance. Deion beat them 45-42. He also beat #22 Iowa State 24-17 last year.

Auburn has 3 wins over AP ranked opponents since the start of 2021. Harsin beat #17 Arkansas 38-23 on Oct. 16th 2021. Then right after that, we beat #10 Ole Miss 31-20 on Oct. 30th 2021. Harsin, along with Bo Nix, had us 6-2 and ranked #11 in the nation with a win in Baton Rouge as well. Bo getting hurt killed that season.

The 3rd ranked win for us came Nov. 23rd, 2024 when Freeze was in year 2 and we beat #15 Texas A&M 43-41 in 4 overtimes. That was Mike Elko's first year as A&M head coach.
Posted by Scoper
i love hugh freeze
Member since Mar 2021
3395 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:13 am to
I tired to warn yall about freeze but no one listened
Posted by LanierSpots
Gulf of America / Sarasota FL
Member since Sep 2010
72203 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:07 am to
quote:

I tired to warn yall about freeze but no one listened




Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
20471 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:53 am to
quote:

I tired to warn yall about freeze but no one listened
Posted by wareaglepete
Siberia
Member since Dec 2012
19897 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 12:01 pm to
You weren’t the only one by a lot. Many here didn’t like him from the start.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1238 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 12:38 pm to
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You weren’t the only one by a lot. Many here didn’t like him from the start.


I think the point of the OP was "Who else could we have gotten at that point in time?" Did any contemporary hire work out? Was that the year that Cristobal was in play? Not that he's proven to be the 2nd coming of Saban himself with a 35-19 record against a softer schedule.

So yeah, you can say "I told you so" all you want, but do you really have a realistic alternative to offer up? If not, pretty empty "I told you so".
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19884 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

You weren’t the only one by a lot. Many here didn’t like him from the start.


Most people who didn't like him didn't like him for political reasons, not football.

I don't think anyone thought he wouldn't be able to win more than 6 games in any of his 3 seasons. He was no improvement over Harsin, which I think surprised even the Freeze haters.

EDIT: In fact, you could say he was worse than Harsin because Harsin rolled a shite roster out there. Freeze had dudes all over the place.
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
21947 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

I tired to warn yall about freeze but no one listened


This is Ben erasure
Posted by wareaglepete
Siberia
Member since Dec 2012
19897 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:29 pm to
Freeze was a worse coach than Harsin. I don’t know what the “political” reasons were people hated him. I didn’t like him because he didn’t impress me as a coach and on top of that he is a scumbag.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
54613 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:33 pm to
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EDIT: In fact, you could say he was worse than Harsin because Harsin rolled a shite roster out there. Freeze had dudes all over the place.

Harsin rolled a shite roster out there on purpose.

Your point is retarded

"Harsin is better because we had Koy Moore and not Cam Coleman and Eric Singleton instead."
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 5:35 pm
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14924 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:15 pm to
Harsin was a head coach in the SEC and he didn't know how to buy players when the NIL roiled around.


Let that sink in..... head coach, SEC, couldn't buy a team.... like a fish out of water


And we practically ripped out the morals clause...because Freeze had a southern drawl?
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