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re: Birmingham goes crazy. Jail for not wearing masks.

Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:03 pm to
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it looks like HHS and their Secretary is going to take a hit, bc he and his org didn't warn the President early enough and didn't emphasize enough the gravity of the issue(even Dr. Fauci was stating such in mid to late February).



The administration were making comments to downplay this into March though.....

There are reports of intelligence briefings in early January that this would be an issue. I mean, multiple senators w information miraculously timed the market and made some lucrative financial deals.


Also, whatever news China was sharing, they shutdown an entire province because they couldn't contain the spread. Not sure how that didn't trigger alarm bells

Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:19 pm to
All I know is amongst all this COVID-19 craziness and everything that goes with it, I've got a hypothetical wedding in South Carolina on June 6 and the decision to postpone or ride it out is looming larger every day.

Fun times.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 2:21 pm
Posted by PubeCrab
Member since May 2014
830 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:52 pm to
Wedding’s are way overrated and a waste of money. Don’t sweat it.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 4/29/20 at 4:35 pm to
Fortunately my wedding isn't until the fall. Hopefully we can move forward as expected.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

I've got a hypothetical wedding in South Carolina on June 6 and the decision to postpone or ride it out is looming larger every day.


Jesus
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21521 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:36 pm to
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Don’t sweat it.
It's a June wedding. There will be plenty of sweat
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:32 pm to


It ended up potentially being something of a blessing we didn’t get the original April date we wanted
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/29/20 at 9:42 pm to


Elon Musk just posted the above. Don’t know where he got or what the data comes from FWIW. Just for California
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 9:44 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34877 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 10:16 pm to
It’s becoming comical just how bad the early models were.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 10:26 pm to
I don’t fault the models really. They are modeling an extremely nonlinear phenomena and had bad initial data, and any errors in the initial data got amplified due to the exponential growth aspect of the model.

However, people knew the initial data was likely erroneous and we made a lot of decisions based on the models despite knowing the margin of error on their forecasts were very large. I guess that’s a discussion on is making a decision based on bad data when it’s all you have better than waiting for better data? Either approach could get you skewered by the public.
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30098 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 10:35 pm to
Damn, let’s get those tests out though before chuck can get a pizza
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 11:03 pm to
Everyone in this neurotic thread seems to need a pat on the head.




I know you fat fricks can’t wait to get back to McDonald’s
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 11:04 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:38 am to
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making a decision based on bad data when it’s all you have better than waiting for better data?


What seems the biggest assumption difference is the rate of asymptomatic/very mild undetected cases. Problem with that assumption is that if you guess wrong it kills a ton of people.

What frustrates the hell out of me about this testing topic. If we developed and pushed testing when we found out in January or even first case in Feb, we could have had a much better outcome.


Hopefully one positive change moving forward is that we allocate $ to start premptive research/test development so we get better data earlier
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 12:39 am
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48915 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 6:58 am to
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know you fat fricks can’t wait to get back to McDonald’s


Calm down Nancy
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91644 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:36 am to
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I know you fat fricks can’t wait to get back to McDonald’s
I have still been enjoying free meals from there. frick you.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41085 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:55 am to
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It’s becoming comical just how bad the early models were.


I don’t find it funny at all.


I think it exemplifies why the Libertarian approach is far superior. Advise people about what you know. Make recommendations on that data. Let people make their own educated decisions.

Would the initial outbreak have been worse? Maybe. Would our economy be crushed? Would we have added trillions in debt? Would we have crushed civil liberties? No.

The problem with the “scientists” and politicians is that they never admit that there is a possibility that they are wrong. This “pandemic” hasn’t allowed for contrary points of view. Those get shouted down, shamed down, or remove from YouTube. You question compliance? Do you want people to die?!?! This “pandemic” is more like a religion or cult where nothing is questioned. Reminds me a lot of the climate change clowns. The majority of this board has been a prime example of this.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:17 am to


Posted by ridlejs
Member since Aug 2011
398 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:37 am to
Preach brother.

I understand that, in the beginning, we were making decisions as best we could using models that were built on assumptions that created a large margin of uncertainty.

We have enough data now to refine those and understand where we are in reality vs. projections and make decisions accordingly.

Most of the recent studies indicate that the number of infected is far more than we originally anticipated - which is good news from a mortality rate standpoint. The research from New York State showing that over 90% of the people hospitalized had hypertension, diabetes, or some other underlying condition(s), is also big news.

But blindly adhering to the “experts” and then being shamed if you so much as question them is scary.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:03 am to
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But blindly adhering to the “experts” and then being shamed if you so much as question them is scary.

Same with the media.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:31 am to
The chart I want to see is how many people lost their freaking asses over this.

Oh and Birmingham PD says they aren't going to enforce the stupid mask order.
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