re: 2022 Recruiting Thread

The talent we need is the type who's still waiting to see what this Harsin guy can actually do. So it's still early in the process for more than the easily landed.
PLUS NO ONE EXPECTS EVERYONE to stay with who they're fond of this week.

And I'm not expecting most fans to be satisfied until much later in the year.

Nothing like a good ole randy depressed post in June. Like clockwork

Our best recruiting pitch has always been game day atmosphere so I'm not going to hit the panic button yet but it is a bit disheartening that we don't seem to be gaining much traction especially at some of the positions of need

I think it’s OK to be down on recruiting right now. It’s slow and we’re struggling with the ‘22 class. We can also be down about this class and recognize that 1) it’s not necessarily indicative of where we’ll be in December or ‘23, and that 2) it’s going to set us back a bit if we have two lackluster classes. That’s a tough pill to swallow.

That’s where I’m at. I’m going to cover this class whether it sucks or not so we’ll suffer or celebrate through it all together

No one is panicking not sure why discussions can’t happen. The general feel I have is that literally no team that we compare ourselves to like aTm, Uga, bama, LSU, Clemson. If we are recruiting the same player they are getting them. The ones waiting to see what we might be or the system are high 3 star type players. Some turn out to be stars and some turn out to be trash. You can not be so over matched against those teams and win anything. Indeed if this year is also a 20ish or worse recruiting years then look for a couple 8-4 or 7-5 type years in the next 3 years.

I like Harsin. Think it was a good call but didn’t realize no players would even have clue who he was down this way. I’m sure his “process” is solid but we can’t overlook the fact that however he won 10 games a lot of years he was probably favored in more then that so losing a couple times a year to teams you out talent by a great amount. Look at Boise recruiting rankings opposed to their conference and I think those recruits were going to Boise for Boise not for Harsin. Just my take guess we will see in year 3. And the team isn’t devoid of talent. If Gus remained the expectation would be 10 wins. Many of us have said why are we lowering the expectations. I haven’t and won’t.

The guy just got here 7 months ago. Give him a frickin chance. He got what the idiot left him for a recruiting class and improved it. On campus visits just returned. Obviously most recruits in this area dont know him yet, why are we already thinking he should be kicking everyones arse?

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No one is panicking not sure why discussions can’t happen. The general feel I have is that literally no team that we compare ourselves to like aTm, Uga, bama, LSU, Clemson. If we are recruiting the same player they are getting them. The ones waiting to see what we might be or the system are high 3 star type players. Some turn out to be stars and some turn out to be trash. You can not be so over matched against those teams and win anything. Indeed if this year is also a 20ish or worse recruiting years then look for a couple 8-4 or 7-5 type years in the next 3 years.

I like Harsin. Think it was a good call but didn’t realize no players would even have clue who he was down this way. I’m sure his “process” is solid but we can’t overlook the fact that however he won 10 games a lot of years he was probably favored in more then that so losing a couple times a year to teams you out talent by a great amount. Look at Boise recruiting rankings opposed to their conference and I think those recruits were going to Boise for Boise not for Harsin. Just my take guess we will see in year 3. And the team isn’t devoid of talent. If Gus remained the expectation would be 10 wins. Many of us have said why are we lowering the expectations. I haven’t and won’t.

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While I do like your insights and knowledge in recruiting and player eval, I sometimes scratch my head and have to respond when you go 'outside the lines' at times.

First, I don't like us as fans or arm chair evaluators to call HS kids that are 3* as 'trash' just bc they didn't improve their ability at their position. That reference to a young man just didn't sit well with me, sorry.

Second, I don't look at Boise for analysis on Harsin, other than to to say as a HC he was very successful getting the results on the field. Looking at their recruiting rankings and throwing out that those recruits would have gone their regardless of Harsin. I realize it's your opinion but that's pushing the logic beyond reason. If Harsin had failed with them, then you might have a point but the majority of those recruits went there bc of Harsin and his ability to recruit them and make them successful.

In the end, It seems like this was going on early in the recruiting time w people on here worried about his ability to recruit at a high level. I thought we had agreed that there are issues underlying that are at play here for the 21 and 22 signing period that could dampen our high demand for a top 10 recruiting class?

Even though you said you like Harsin, you seem to start indicating there are cracks in your support of him...And I just think it is way way to early to even have those..

As you said this is not a panicked response but a discussion...with some minor issues.

We call our current players much worse then trash. I wasn’t calling a particular player thrash just a term used to describe someone using up a spot on the roster. You play in that middle of the pack 3 star range that’s what you get in the SEC, could contribute and maybe not contribute.

To follow up on the Harsin at Boise look at every coach there since Dan Hawkins. Hell look at Dan Hawkins in general. Thought to be a wizard at Boise and crumbled at Colorado.

The thing is fans and players aren’t waiting 3 years for players to develop anymore. And then become a big contributor or starter like in the days of Dye and Tuberville. As we have seen the portal gives and the portal takes a way.

Support isn’t faltering but like I said 2 essentially below average recruiting classes is going to suck big time. But will say the hire was a gamble that could go either way. So far outside of organizing and detailed vision all else has been pretty bad.

Boise State dis not change conferences. They are still in the Mountain West since 2010. They were off probation when he took over at Boise like Bowden did in 1993 for us. He needs time but he not got off to a great start. He should win at least 9 game this year. Their is a reason all the bama poster on the rant is glad Gus is gone and not worried about Harsin. I so hope he proves them wrong. I do like what he has done with the transfers.