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This is a multi year fix

Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:41 pm
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:41 pm
When Sam was hired he was the lowest paid coach in the league. Money was used on assistants instead of the head coach. Assistants were hired to fit the personnel.

Then Sam got a little success and the formula changed. Got a big raise and hired the wrong guys.

We aren’t one portal class away from respectability. It’s a complete rebuild and it shouldn’t be led by the guy that got us in this mess.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22766 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

We aren’t one portal class away from respectability. It’s a complete rebuild and it shouldn’t be led by the guy that got us in this mess.


So, with that last line, fire HY? Why not...
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:44 pm to
Who are ADs who are hungry?
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6548 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:48 pm to
At this point, I don’t think the program can be resurrected.

Mediocre hires at the worst possible time. Current 17-18 year olds were 5 year olds the last time we were relevant. With our mediocre NIL, we desperately need some history as a real program to fall back on.

Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
2922 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:49 pm to
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So, with that last line, fire HY? Why not...


I don’t think HY is dumb enough to keep Sam at HC. Maybe he retires. Maybe he does something in the ADs office.

But yeah if HY says you have to fire him to fire Pittman that’s an easy choice.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21218 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:59 pm to
They need start taking seats out of the stadium since we don't care for football.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15335 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 7:02 pm to
No it isn't

No such thing anymore

Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10400 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 7:06 pm to
It can't be fixed until we get competitive with NIL money. No matter who the coach is.
End of story.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21218 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 7:19 pm to
Pittman could be given 5 star talent and still lose to BYU.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 7:23 pm to
It doesn't take huge nil money to finish .500 or better.

It doesn't take big nil money to have a team that looks like they give a shite and are giving their best effort.

Arkansas has always had less than the competition in the sec and swc, the lack of effort and pride to represent the university is a recent phenomenon.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22766 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 7:31 pm to
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Arkansas has always had less than the competition in the sec and swc, the lack of effort and pride to represent the university is a recent phenomenon.




Agreed, but with NIL being such a deal now and kids needing to get paid. All of that Prid and Representing has changed a bit. We have been left in the cold man!
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 7:32 pm to
Seemed to be plenty of money for a guy who said he needed to step up and be a vocal leader before the game today.
Posted by Litigator
Hog Jaw, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
7535 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 7:40 pm to
TBH it has been a multi-year fix for a very long time now.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:53 pm to
It’s pitch fork or bust my educated fellow prideful #49th state in the union brethren!

Mount thy horses and take a stand!

Let’s be bonafide!
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 10:06 pm to
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We aren’t one portal class away from respectability. It’s a complete rebuild and it shouldn’t be led by the guy that got us in this mess.


How is more NIL money , gonna make Sam a better in game coach?

How is more NIL money gonna develop players?

How is more NIL money going to teach our offensive line to bench press more?

When Sam got here a huge part of that was we gotta win with who we got! Now that he's had 4 years it's these kids aren't good enough....

Is the NIL money gonna pay for punter? Is that why we have the punter we have?

How is that NIL money gonna handle the roster better and make sure players we want to get the ball see the field?

How is NIL money gonna ensure Sam can manage assistants?

How many proceudral penalties were caused by lack of NIL money?

This is simply kicking the can down the road at the expense of the program. Were poorly coached, end of story.
This post was edited on 11/24/23 at 10:08 pm
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19026 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 10:08 pm to
Sam made his living off of Aggie Chad cruits and Super Seniors

Prove me wrong

Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:07 am to
We need people who love the helmet
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:36 am to
quote:

We need people who love the helmet

We need someone who loves a helmet period. Someone who is obsessed
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12407 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

How is more NIL money , gonna make Sam a better in game coach?

How is more NIL money gonna develop players?

How is more NIL money going to teach our offensive line to bench press more?

When Sam got here a huge part of that was we gotta win with who we got! Now that he's had 4 years it's these kids aren't good enough....

Is the NIL money gonna pay for punter? Is that why we have the punter we have?

How is that NIL money gonna handle the roster better and make sure players we want to get the ball see the field?

How is NIL money gonna ensure Sam can manage assistants?

How many proceudral penalties were caused by lack of NIL money?

This is simply kicking the can down the road at the expense of the program. Were poorly coached, end of story.


Exactly.

We always have to do more with less, but Sam’s recruited better than our historical level and has done fairly well with the portal.

Talent isn’t the problem, and talent isn’t the reason we’re 4-8 and staring down another losing season next year.

Coaching and development is the problem. And yet Yurachek got his bluff called by an Oklahoma bumpkin.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19248 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

Pittman could be given 5 star talent and still lose to BYU.


He beat byu last year at byu with 2 5 star receivers and a 5 star linebacker.

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