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re: Outback vs. Penn State

Posted on 12/9/21 at 11:13 am to
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 11:13 am to
Yeah I guess for someone late first round it could push them to second round if the circumstances were just right
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 11:37 am to
Is there a big difference in 1st round money and 2nd etc..? I don’t watch any NFL so I have no clue.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 12:09 pm to
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Is there a big difference in 1st round money and 2nd etc..? I don’t watch any NFL so I have no clue.


Signing bonus is the key thing to look at and I believe it cuts from around 6m in the end of the 1st round to about 3m at the start of the 2nd.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Signing bonus is the key thing to look at and I believe it cuts from around 6m in the end of the 1st round to about 3m at the start of the 2nd.


So maybe anyone projected 3rd or lower could come back with NIL deals matching it up?
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 6:15 pm to
That was a weird melt to wake up to.

By all means, do you. The only school of economics that actually is consistent in every circumstance is Von Mises' views on Human Action, i.e. everyone operates to their own incentive structure.

Is it good or bad? No. Very few things, if anything, in life universally is. But Burks is working with the best incentives for himself, both personal and monetary, as are you. But its not crazy to call those misaligned incentives more selfish as it relates to fans when what he potentially loses is in far greater magnitude to what fans would lose. Often times there is huge grey area as to relative magnitude, but this one seems pretty straightforward.

That isn't a paradigm that would suggest every athlete should opt out of the team the second they have high draft prospects, as then its counterproductive since many GMs will question committment. As with everything, there is a balance, but it seems foolish for anyone to question Treylon's committment (not pointing at you specifically).
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
7769 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 6:31 pm to
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The only school of economics that actually is consistent in every circumstance is Von Mises' views on Human Action


Great economist - not a reference I expected from someone with a Bernanke avatar

Also not sure why people think I'm melting


Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5600 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 6:32 pm to
Put some fricking respect on Bernank the Tank's name.
This post was edited on 12/10/21 at 7:10 pm
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10401 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:24 pm to
I am selfish. I want us to win our bowl game.
We are down 3 important players now. Burks, arguably the MVP on the offensive side (although it would hurt us worse to lose Jefferson.) Calvaruso eliminating just about all chances of returning a KO for great field position by opponents, and Ridgeway, who commanded double teams at times and set the anchor of our defensive line. All 3 will be missed against PSU.
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 9:25 pm
Posted by ThundrHawg
The Flagship™
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:11 am to
Say it with me people:

"Burks getting healthy and improving his draft stock at the combine is BETTER FOR THE PROGRAM than anything he could do for us at the bowl game."
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 5:34 am to
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Ridgeway


Had not seen he was skipping, since he is playing in the senior bowl.


Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21256 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 6:26 am to
The senior bowl is in the first week of February.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10401 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 6:38 am to
I misinterpreted the post I read. My mistake.
I do hate we won't have the other two then.
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3907 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:02 am to
quote:

All 3 will be missed against PSU.


Do we know who PSU is losing, though? This could even out in the end.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21256 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:05 am to
Did Ridgeway say he was gone? I never heard anyone skip out on a bowl when given an invitation to the Senior Bowl. That would be counterproductive to his draft status.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19026 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:34 pm to
Ricky The Steamboat Stromberg is returning next year.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:56 pm to
How many are we going to lose on the OL? Wagner and Stromberg both coming back is great
Posted by Riggle
Blue Ridge Mountains
Member since Feb 2013
3229 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 2:01 pm to
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How many are we going to lose on the OL?


Cunningham might be the only starter we lose.
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2212 posts
Posted on 12/11/21 at 10:54 pm to
Every one of us would do exactly what Burks is doing we’re we faced with the same situation. Nobody is stupid enough to not focus on maximizing the signing bonus.

Obviously that starts by not getting hurt, but Combine prep is a full time job and practicing for a bowl game cuts into that.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 5:10 am to
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Every one of us would do exactly what Burks is doing we’re we faced with the same situation. Nobody is stupid enough to not focus on maximizing the signing bonus.


Probably why you see 98% positive messages. 2% will always just play for the love of the game (ie: never had talent at anything), which is like saying a plumber just fixes pipes for the love of running water.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:34 am to
quote:

which is like saying a plumber just fixes pipes for the love of running water.


Hear, hear. A professional athlete's career is usually quite short. For every Tom Brady lasting longer than a fart in a elevator you have a few dozen out of the pros in a couple of years.

Burks played hurt basically all season and still pulled off an incredible year. I'm fine with him taking the time to get healthy to increase his pay day. Without him breaking open games for us we'd probably have been fighting like crazy to get bowl eligible against Mizzou.
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