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re: Official: Pittman returning next season
Posted on 11/20/23 at 9:58 pm to dchog
Posted on 11/20/23 at 9:58 pm to dchog
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The problem with getting better OL is that rarely you get them from the portal.
That is a harder position of development and it takes time unlike other positions.
There's an old saying: Offensive Linemen are built... Not made.
Pittman is years behind already in OLine development. OL is also by far the hardest portal prospect to land because eveyone wants them and there aren't many of them on the market.
At best, Sam will be able to win 5-6 games next year. It's not going to be pretty because he's not going to be able to learn how to be a good in game coach.
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Posted on 11/20/23 at 10:53 pm to hawgfaninc
quote:I know you are still fully on board with where the program is headed, so I’ll ask you, at what point would you be ready to move on from the Pittman experience? Another year like the last? 2 more years? At what point would you cut the cord?
I realize I might as well be replying to a brick wall during this time of temper tantrum.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:07 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
If he’s fired, I wouldn’t care
If he isn’t fired, I wouldn’t care
I can see the rationale behind both, that being said as stands now I think he should get another crack at getting a better fit at OC and improving the OL. If he fails at that I’ll be more firmly in the fire him camp.
If he isn’t fired, I wouldn’t care
I can see the rationale behind both, that being said as stands now I think he should get another crack at getting a better fit at OC and improving the OL. If he fails at that I’ll be more firmly in the fire him camp.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:14 pm to hawgfaninc
I've been a hardcore fan my entire life. My parents had season tickets when Quinn Grovey was QB.
I'm officially checked out until they give me some reason to check back in. Being completely noncompetitive isn't fun and I would rather spend my Saturdays doing things I enjoy.
I think next year we will see that a lot of people share my opinion unless there is some sort of miracle turnaround.
I'm officially checked out until they give me some reason to check back in. Being completely noncompetitive isn't fun and I would rather spend my Saturdays doing things I enjoy.
I think next year we will see that a lot of people share my opinion unless there is some sort of miracle turnaround.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:20 am to hawgfaninc
It is easy to want to fire Pittman but he should be given a chance to succeed or fail.
Arkansas needs to go back to the expectations that if you have back to back losing seasons then a coach should be fired.
His chances of getting fired are high next year which means the buyout is cut in half.
Giving him another year will silence some critics that Arkansas didn't give him more time. Five years shows Arkansas is patient and will give any coach enough time unlike some schools who are very impatient.
Arkansas needs to go back to the expectations that if you have back to back losing seasons then a coach should be fired.
His chances of getting fired are high next year which means the buyout is cut in half.
Giving him another year will silence some critics that Arkansas didn't give him more time. Five years shows Arkansas is patient and will give any coach enough time unlike some schools who are very impatient.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:19 pm to dchog
Who even cares anymore? IDGAF what they do. I'll watch if it's convenient, but until we can put a competitive team on the field, it's a waste of my time.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:33 pm to dchog
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Arkansas needs to go back to the expectations that if you have back to back losing seasons then a coach should be fired.
You can go back to those expectations. No other program in the SEC has those except Vandy.
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Giving him another year will silence some critics that Arkansas didn't give him more time. Five years shows Arkansas is patient and will give any coach enough time unlike some schools who are very impatient.
Do you think these guys care if a school is impatient? With these massive buyouts some are probably hoping to get fired. The lump sum they get is more than most would make in 4 years of coaching.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:33 pm to RazorHawg
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plus all the assistant coaches which puts it about $20-$25 mil plus having to hire a new HC and entire staff.
Aren’t most the assistants on a year to year?
Except OC/Dc?
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:44 pm to Razorback Reverend
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I know I will be downvoted into oblivion for this, but I still like the fella and hope he succeeds against most odds. Daggumit!
Everyone kind of likes him.
The problem is it will divide this fan base just like Houston Nutt did. No one like Chad Morris, no one like Bobby (but you respected him) which made it easier to get rid of those two.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:46 pm to hawgfaninc
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lost to bama @ bama by 3 points
That’s before Bama figured it out.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 2:02 pm to FayetteNAM
Not giving Pittman credit and assuming outcomes isn’t a good thing.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 2:10 pm to hawgfaninc
Giving any coach credit for losing isn’t a good thing.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 2:49 pm to STLhog
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STLhog
well duh! Dude, you have been a hater for Ar Football for years. I get the point, most do.
But, he is a hell of a salesman to be here still and have Nil go up, get a great OL immediately following this mess. And we have hired too many terrible coaches the past few years, got rid of them quickly.
I don't know a decent coach who would take the risk to his rep, or his agents to advice stepping in to this crap show with the above. Let it ride one more season to see what occurs at least. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?
Posted on 11/21/23 at 3:21 pm to STLhog
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Giving any coach credit for losing isn’t a good thing.
No one is giving credit for losing, maybe adding context, but not credit.
Without context, a coach with a losing season would always be fired. The people in charge understand the losses in their context so a coach is either fired or retained based on that.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 3:43 pm to hawgfaninc
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he people in charge understand the losses in their context so a coach is either fired or retained based on that.
I'd love for you to enlighten us all on the "context" of losing to MSU at home and scoring 3 points.
Or any of the rest of the pathetic losses we've experienced this season.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 3:52 pm to hawgfaninc
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Without context, a coach with a losing season would always be fired.
The context for most of us is its year 4. A coach is almost always fired for going 4-8 in year 4 especially in the SEC.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:31 pm to STLhog
I’m not trying to add context to those bad losses, they sucked. Best I can do is make guesses as to why they happened.
Firing him because of those bad losses would be understandable, though I wouldn’t necessarily agree with it. Like I said, as of now I lean more towards letting him have another crack at getting a better fit at OC and improving the OL, then making a decision on his job status based on the outcome.
Firing him because of those bad losses would be understandable, though I wouldn’t necessarily agree with it. Like I said, as of now I lean more towards letting him have another crack at getting a better fit at OC and improving the OL, then making a decision on his job status based on the outcome.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:12 pm to hawgfaninc
Found another Burls kid. Guess they would be growing up now.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:25 pm to dchog
There will be studs that hit portal just for the NIL money. We are so young in the infancy of this freaking thing
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:28 pm to STLhog
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Found another Burls kid. Guess they would be growing up now.
I just got to know what it is about your humor, to be this way to folks...
Dude, 3 different people you have said this about. Good Lord, move along now!
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 7:39 pm
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