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re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by UAinSOUTHAL 
on 1/13/21 at 6:00 pm to Grievous Angel
on 1/13/21 at 6:00 pm to Grievous Angelquote:
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McCarron was solid, had a great run for us, but in terms of pure qb talent, he doesn't belong on that list in my opinion.
2 titles. No one else has done it. You're right, he was just "solid" but he was a playmaker too.
1 alone doesn't get you there--ie Jay Barker. Or GMAC.
But both of those QBs did lead Bama wire-to-wire to undefeated NCs. Barker had a horrendous champtionship game tho
McCarron has 3 titles
re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by Fells on 1/13/21 at 6:54 pm to gumpinmizzou
on 1/13/21 at 6:54 pm to gumpinmizzouquote:
but in terms of pure qb talent, he doesn't belong on that list in my opinion.
I have zero doubts that AJ would put up some insane numbers in our modern offense.
re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by imjustafatkid 
on 1/13/21 at 7:03 pm to Grievous Angel
on 1/13/21 at 7:03 pm to Grievous AngelThis is a really weird thread. I really don't know what you're trying to say here.
re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by Chad4Bama on 1/13/21 at 7:43 pm to UAinSOUTHAL
on 1/13/21 at 7:43 pm to UAinSOUTHALNot many QBs walking around with 3 NC rings...2 as a starter, 1 as the backup.
No matter the individual talent, it's all about winning championships.
Mac, Tua, AJ, Snake, Namath...top 5 in some order.
No matter the individual talent, it's all about winning championships.
Mac, Tua, AJ, Snake, Namath...top 5 in some order.
re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by Grievous Angel on 1/13/21 at 9:26 pm to UAinSOUTHAL
on 1/13/21 at 9:26 pm to UAinSOUTHALquote:
McCarron has 3 titles
you really giving him 09?
Does that mean Bryce young gets 2020?
re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by RollTide1987 on 1/13/21 at 9:31 pm to Grievous Angel
on 1/13/21 at 9:31 pm to Grievous Angelquote:
Barker had a horrendous champtionship game tho.
Barker had a horrendous season. The only two games where he showed flashes was at Vanderbilt and at home against Ole Miss. His totals for the season were as follows:
132-243 (54.3%) 1,614 yards 7 TDs 9 INTs
And those numbers were considered mediocre back in 1992 and don't include the two interceptions he threw in the Sugar Bowl. Barker didn't become an actual play maker until 1994.
re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by RollTide1987 on 1/13/21 at 9:34 pm to Grievous Angel
on 1/13/21 at 9:34 pm to Grievous Angelquote:
you really giving him 09?
Does that mean Bryce young gets 2020?
I don't give McCarron '09. He redshirted that year. Bryce Young at least saw action this season.
re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by BamaDude06 on 1/13/21 at 9:55 pm to RollTide1987
on 1/13/21 at 9:55 pm to RollTide1987If Greg had had to leave the game against Texas AJ would have burned his redshirt and come into the game. Every player on a team has a role in winning a ring, even if it's just as a practice warrior.
re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by jatebe on 1/13/21 at 10:38 pm to UAinSOUTHAL
on 1/13/21 at 10:38 pm to UAinSOUTHALquote:McCarron did not start in 09. He has 11 and 12. McElroy was the starting QB for 2009.
McCarron has 3 titles
And I hate it when so called fans rip up Bama players who gave all they had for the team. Tua couldn't help that he got hurt. Of course, I loved Jalen too. Hated he had to transfer.
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re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by jatebe on 1/13/21 at 10:43 pm to BamaDude06
on 1/13/21 at 10:43 pm to BamaDude06quote:You're correct, but every game has a starting QB and that player gets credit for that win.
Every player on a team has a role in winning a ring, even if it's just as a practice warrior.
re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by BamaDude06 on 1/13/21 at 10:46 pm to jatebe
on 1/13/21 at 10:46 pm to jatebequote:
You're correct, but every game has a starting QB and that player gets credit for that win.
Yeah, but AJ still has three rings. Period.
re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by tattoo on 1/13/21 at 11:39 pm to Grievous Angel
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2 titles. No one else has done it. You're right, he was just "solid" but he was a playmaker too.
Sloan led them to 2 titles; split 1964 with Namath who was injured that year. Namath, Spurrier and Sloan were all-SEC QBs.
(A quaint stat: in the first game of the year Namath tied Harry Gilmer's Alabama completion record with 16 :-))
quote:Not really. Steve Sloan and AJ are the only QBs to start and lead Bama to 2 NCs. Neither are top 5 in talent. A supporting cast is everything. Barker won a NC in 92 but was not even half the QB he was in 94. AJ was a good QB but is not Namath (won 1 NC, shared with Sloan), Stabler (who never won a NC), Tua, even Mac, Starr who played on winning and losing teams, Todd, likely others. He has a special place but he is not as effective personally as some others. He had 2 great NC games. He threw a great deep out. Jalen has a place, Coker, Shealy, JPW, both Rutledges, Terry Davis, Pooley Hubert, Dixie Howell, Harry Gilmer, Riley Smith, et al.
Mac, Tua, AJ, Snake, Namath...top 5 in some order.
Here's a list of Alabama's starting quarterbacks.
National championships starting QBs
2020 Mac Jones
2017 Jalen Hurts
2015 Jake Coker
2012 AJ McCarron
2011 AJ McCarron
2009 Greg McElroy
1992 Jay Barker
1979 Steadman Shealy
1978 Jeff Rutledge
1978 GaryRutledge
1965 Steve Sloan
1964 Joe Namath
1961 Pat Trammell
1934 Riley Smith (HOF)
1930 John Tucker
1926 Red Barnes
1925 Pooley Hubert (HOF)
National championships starting QBs
2020 Mac Jones
2017 Jalen Hurts
2015 Jake Coker
2012 AJ McCarron
2011 AJ McCarron
2009 Greg McElroy
1992 Jay Barker
1979 Steadman Shealy
1978 Jeff Rutledge
1978 GaryRutledge
1965 Steve Sloan
1964 Joe Namath
1961 Pat Trammell
1934 Riley Smith (HOF)
1930 John Tucker
1926 Red Barnes
1925 Pooley Hubert (HOF)
Someone tell Tua he doesn't get credit for the 2017 NC since he wasn't the starter lol.
If someone asked AJ how many NC rings he has, he'd say 3... because it's the truth.
If they asked how many did he win as the starting QB, he'd say 2... because it's the truth.
If someone asked AJ how many NC rings he has, he'd say 3... because it's the truth.
If they asked how many did he win as the starting QB, he'd say 2... because it's the truth.
This post was edited on 1/14 at 2:57 pm
re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by harmonics on 1/14/21 at 5:21 pm to Grievous Angel
on 1/14/21 at 5:21 pm to Grievous AngelSo what if Tua wasn't there? AJ McCarron wasn't there, Jake Coker wasn't there, Blake Sims wasn't there, Brandon Avalos wasn't there
re: Was Tua at the NCG?Posted by antibarner on 1/15/21 at 3:43 am to BLG
on 1/15/21 at 3:43 am to BLGBryce Young played vs Ohio State.
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