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re: **tOfficial Orange Bowl Thread** Bama - 45 OU - 34 END! BAMA WINS!!! Headed to the NC Game

Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:01 pm to
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14526 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:01 pm to
We also missed about three chances to pick off Murray tonight. Need to secure those next week.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11470 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:02 pm to
frick OU!! I wanted that last score. I hate those bastards and the way they play. They will trot another kid out there at QB again next year that will put up the same stupid numbers against the same shitty defenses and Fowler and Herbstreit will suck him off too. Like they’ve never seen it before. I hate what they call football
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:03 pm to













" Roll Tide! ~ Roll Tide! ~ Roll Tide! ~ Roll Tide! "

This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 8:44 pm
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
Member since Nov 2011
23334 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:04 pm to
I wouldn't mind..I will likely be working on the 7th so I'll have to start it later but sure
Posted by Carlton
Good Cop/Bad Cop
Member since Feb 2016
11776 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:05 pm to
Super excited about Jan 7.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15355 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:09 pm to
Yea the ball hawking needs to be improved but im glad we got to play OU first. I think they are more difficult to prepare for and like our chances for Clemson with 10 or so days to prepare.
Posted by FeralFeral
Member since Dec 2017
961 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:20 pm to
Yeah, Murray is good, but the only thing he really adds to the OU system is his wheels. They could plug a jug machine in back there and have it put up 4000 yds passing.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:21 pm
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13349 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:27 pm to
To all the people saying Surtain sucks .... He played heck of a game for a freshman

Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40909 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:29 pm to
Murray stuffed the stat sheet. Lots if garbage time runs though.

One great throw on the 50 yarder and one great run on the 3rd and 13.

Otherwise we played conservative with a 3 score game
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14526 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:29 pm to
He didn’t play a good game at all. Regardless of class. He will have more chances against Clemson though.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:33 pm to
Surtain didn't look like himself out there, a little sluggish, at times -- like maybe he's ill with a virus or something.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:38 pm to
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To all the people saying Surtain sucks .... He played heck of a game for a freshman

I don't think he played bad...but I do think he needs to look back for the ball...he was in good position most times but never looked back...and at least twice, Lamb got away with pushing off Surtain, including the TD...
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11470 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:40 pm to
That sluggishness you see is called PTSD. He got his shite pushed in so many times that he was freezing up out there unsure of what to do. I think the young man is very talented and will learn from this traumatic experience but tonight he got schooled and began to doubt himself and it showed. He just needs to learn from it, man up, and make up for it in Santa Clara.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:41 pm
Posted by Tider95
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2017
2137 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:42 pm to
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I don't think he played bad...but I do think he needs to look back for the ball...he was in good position most times but never looked back...and at least twice, Lamb got away with pushing off Surtain, including the TD...


Look up in phase and out of phase before bringing this dumb shite here

Surtain isn't looking back because he isn't in phase and back shoulder throws are designed to exploit that.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:08 am to
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Alabama’s win over OU was the 55th for the Tide’s senior class. The group has a record of 55-3 (.948), won two national titles and three SEC championships, & has appeared in 5 CFPs. They surpass Bama’s '17 SR class (53-5; .914) for the most wins by a senior class in NCAA history


This is unreal. I never thought that I would see anything like this with scholarship limitations
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:21 am to
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Look up in phase and out of phase before bringing this dumb shite here

Bite me. Several of our CBs under Saban have had issues with not finding the ball whether it's a back shoulder throw or not...

And when the WR is allowed to push off, it doesn't much matter if the CB is in phase or not...
Posted by Tider95
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2017
2137 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:23 am to
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Bite me. Several of our CBs under Saban have had issues with not finding the ball whether it's a back shoulder throw or not...

Because they weren't in phase.

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Although Saban is known for having one of the most complex defenses schemes to play against, he has a pretty simple philosophy for how he wants defensive backs to defend opposing receivers, whether to play the ball or the man.

He explained it without too much coach-speak during his radio show last Thursday: “There were several occasions last week [against Florida International], where guys should have played the ball and they didn’t. That’s something [where] if you can see me on the sideline I’m always going to be yelling at them, ‘Why didn’t you play the ball? Why didn’t you play the ball?’ “Let me explain it to you this way: There’s two positions you can be in when you’re defending a receiver. You’re either ‘in-phase’ with him or you’re ‘out-of-phase’ with him. Now, . . . ‘in-phase’ means that you’re pretty much even with the guy [as he runs straight downfield], but if you can see the guy’s number nearest [to] you, you’re in-phase when you’re covering him down the field. So when he gets through the move area — the move area defined being 14 to 18 yards down the field where the guy’s going to break a route in or out — we play a lot of closed coverage, [i.e.] we’re in bump-and-run a lot; we’re in that position with the guy when he gets in the move area. Now, if you’re in-phase with him when he gets into the move area, you should be become the receiver and look for the ball. That’s what you should do, and then the ball has to go through you.

“If you’re in the out-of phase position, which means you can’t see his near number, you can’t be even with him, then you have to play the guy’s eyes and hands for the ball because you’re not in position and if the quarterback throws it correctly [on a fade type pass] you’re not going to be able to get to the ball — you’re behind him too far.
This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 12:29 am
Posted by We_R_The_Tide
Athens, Alabama
Member since Dec 2013
916 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:40 am to
The major problem I’m seeing is they are in bump and run coverage, but I’m not seeing any “bump”.......
Posted by Tider95
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2017
2137 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:43 am to
We ran a ton of pattern match with man to man and in those cases the DB's often are not lined up in bump and run, instead backed off slightly and shuffling with the receiver.
Posted by TouchdownAlabama
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
1748 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:45 am to
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frick OU! I wanted that last score.


Same. 52-34 would’ve looked and sounded better.
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