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Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:06 am to Alabama_Fan
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:06 am to Alabama_Fan
And the SI write up
After Loss at Georgia, Alabama Basketball is Seeking Answers
With the Crimson Tide losing to a lackluster Georgia Bulldogs team on Tuesday night, Nate Oats and Alabama are looking to find a solution to their biggest problem.
After Loss at Georgia, Alabama Basketball is Seeking Answers
With the Crimson Tide losing to a lackluster Georgia Bulldogs team on Tuesday night, Nate Oats and Alabama are looking to find a solution to their biggest problem.
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:12 am to Alabama_Fan
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I think we had some heartfelt conversations in the locker room. I think some guys know that stuff needs to be changed
I'm just kind of assuming that this is simply Oats not wanting to admit that at least half this team is mentally checked out. Because he says this shite after every loss, and nothing ever changes. If "some guys" means like 3 of them then it makes sense that nothing ever changes.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:17 am to Robot Santa
Establishing a winning culture requires benching guys who don't buy in 100%.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 10:19 am
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:35 am to TidalSurge1
The difference is we don’t have he depth to do that this year. Last year we had the depth that people knew if they didn’t give max effort they weren’t gonna play….don’t have that this year.
If this was last year Shack and JQ wouldn’t be playing, and we would still have a solid rotation of 8 out there without them
If this was last year Shack and JQ wouldn’t be playing, and we would still have a solid rotation of 8 out there without them
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 10:37 am
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:40 am to mistaken4193
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If this was last year Shack and JQ wouldn’t be playing, and we would still have a solid rotation of 8 out there without them
If we're going to lose with them, then we can't do worse without them.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
I'm sure I'm making something out of nothing, but hear me out.
Last night, about 10:00 left in the game, Davison is dominating the ball one possession, dribbling out front while not much else is happening. As the clock starts to tick down, he takes his man off the dribble, does a spin move, and scores a layup. It was a great play and revealing of the type of ability he has to create for himself.
Quinerly was off to the left wing on the play, hands up, calling for the ball as the clock was winding down. The very next possession (after a Mizzou FG), Quinerly comes down, makes no attempt to set the offense, and jacks up a contested three about six or seven seconds into the shot clock (missed).
I thought that was very revealing sequence. In that moment I saw Quinerly as the guy that wants to dominate the ball and some frustration coming out that he wasn't getting to. It was truly and awful possession and to me it felt like (at least for moment) he was putting himself in front of the team. I don't know if that is too uncommon this year, either.
Now, lots of guys are playing terrible and this is not meant to single out JQ but more an example of where maybe this team's chemistry is right now. So hopefully I'm making too much of it and we will upset Baylor on Saturday.
Last night, about 10:00 left in the game, Davison is dominating the ball one possession, dribbling out front while not much else is happening. As the clock starts to tick down, he takes his man off the dribble, does a spin move, and scores a layup. It was a great play and revealing of the type of ability he has to create for himself.
Quinerly was off to the left wing on the play, hands up, calling for the ball as the clock was winding down. The very next possession (after a Mizzou FG), Quinerly comes down, makes no attempt to set the offense, and jacks up a contested three about six or seven seconds into the shot clock (missed).
I thought that was very revealing sequence. In that moment I saw Quinerly as the guy that wants to dominate the ball and some frustration coming out that he wasn't getting to. It was truly and awful possession and to me it felt like (at least for moment) he was putting himself in front of the team. I don't know if that is too uncommon this year, either.
Now, lots of guys are playing terrible and this is not meant to single out JQ but more an example of where maybe this team's chemistry is right now. So hopefully I'm making too much of it and we will upset Baylor on Saturday.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:47 am to mistaken4193
JQ and Shack get lumped in together a lot, but I just don’t see it. Shack does Shack things at times, but JQ is borderline unplayable at the moment. Shack is better offensively and defensively. He’s not even close to our worst perimeter defender.
Last night Shack made some bad bad plays in the second half, but he also carried us in the first half. And frankly I thought he played noticeably harder than at least a few of our guys.
Last night Shack made some bad bad plays in the second half, but he also carried us in the first half. And frankly I thought he played noticeably harder than at least a few of our guys.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:53 am to cdur86
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Alabama basketball has made me so pessimistic and Gottfried ruined me with his constant away game nightmares no matter who we were playing. I just have that feeling Georgia will look like the NBA All-Star team and play well above their average and we won't have enough answers. I think this is why I can't watch Bama basketball and just have to keep up on the ESPN app
The sad part about this loss is that Georgia didn't even need to look like an All-Star team to beat us. They made less 3's and weren't exactly lighting it up from the floor either. I swear i just need to divorce the basketball team. I just don't understand why we can't be consistently decent/good in basketball. Maybe it just irks me more because it looks like Auburn has figured it out after being the worst team in the SEC for years.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:02 am to cdur86
This UltimaParadox Bama fan is over on tRant running the basketball program down something awful!
Does this guy come around here any?
Does this guy come around here any?
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:02 am to Bham Bammer
Agree with your assessment. There is no teamwork at all. Guys looking out for self. No leaders on this roster. The players who should be leaders are the worst offenders. Only the players can fix this.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:06 am to coachcrisp
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This UltimaParadox Bama fan is over on tRant running the basketball program down something awful! Does this guy come around here any?
No clue. I try to avoid the SEC rant as much as possible. Especially after a Bama loss in any sport. It's just all trolls now
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:07 am to Crede15
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JQ and Shack get lumped in together a lot, but I just don’t see it. Shack does Shack things at times, but JQ is borderline unplayable at the moment. Shack is better offensively and defensively. He’s not even close to our worst perimeter defender.
Kind of agree. Shack is still the same streaky spot up 3pt shooter who thinks he's Ja Morant when he gets into the paint. He hasn't changed or regressed as a player. He hasn't improved either, but of the many problems this team has Shack being streaky and maybe a bit selfish isn't at the top of the list. That said, part of me questions whether the way he handled the portal situation may have caused some division in the locker room that was allowed to fester. And I only say that because there has to be something going on behind the scenes with these guys. I get that our roster situation isn't ideal by any means, but that's no explanation for the kind of performances we have put forth against two of the worst teams in the conference.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:10 am to Crede15
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JQ and Shack get lumped in together a lot, but I just don’t see it. Shack does Shack things at times, but JQ is borderline unplayable at the moment. Shack is better offensively and defensively. He’s not even close to our worst perimeter defender.
Last night Shack made some bad bad plays in the second half, but he also carried us in the first half. And frankly I thought he played noticeably harder than at least a few of our guys.
I agree. The frustration about Shack, in my opinion, is simply that he turns it over trying to create. However, he kind of has to try right now since are PGs aren't doing it.
Don't buy that he doesn't he give good effort on defensive end either. Maybe some mental lapses but mainly he's just not a great defender.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:22 am to wm72
Is Ambrose Hylton hurt or just not seeing the floor? Weird to me we’ve got a 6’7” thickly built athlete that can’t buy a minute when Britton Johnson and James Rojas (a bigger ben eblen) are seeing the floor lately
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:31 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Is Ambrose Hylton hurt or just not seeing the floor?
Just not seeing the floor. He is strictly a five, and we have preferred Bediako, Gurley, and Rojas as the fives.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:29 pm to DLev45
It's time to throw that shite out the window and play Johnson, and KAH and the others. If we are going to lose, let's do it with kids busting their arse trying.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:29 pm to DLev45
Alabama announced they’re having a white-out on Saturday vs Baylor. From what I’ve heard, they’ll have a couple thousand white shirts available. So probably a good idea to wear a white shirt on your own if possible
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:30 pm to DLev45
Just as a primer for possible improvement next year, here are the write ups on the skills/strengths/weaknesses of our incoming freshmen
Fvckin damn it
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BRANDON MILLER, SF (6'8, 200 LBS)
*****, #12 OVR, #3 SF
EVALUATED 11/01/2021
Jerry Meyer
DIRECTOR OF BASKETBALL SCOUTING
PROJECTION
First Round
COMPARISON
Paul Pierce
Great length as a combo forward at a long 6-8. Is thin now but has the frame to add body mass. More of a smooth athlete than an explosive athlete but can make plays in traffic. Will do more of that with added strength and added mental toughness. Has tremendous body control and can stop on a dime for his shot and also make improvising moves to finish. Has a great shooting touch. In process of developing a more consistent deep range shot. Quite adept at finding the midrange shot. Loves to shoot going left, especially with a hop back move or spin move that direction. Also, a good finisher around the rim. Handles the ball well in space. Can get too high with the dribble in traffic. Sees the court and will deliver the pass on the move. Needs to up his intensity on the defensive end. Has a feel for blocking shots. Often, however, plays too upright and without enough strength at the point of attack. Has great hands as a rebounder. Developing strength will certainly aide him as a rebounder. Has a ton of potential. Key is tightening up his skills and his mental toughness while gaining weight and strength.
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JADEN BRADLEY, PG (6'3, 185 LBS)
****, #21 OVR, #3 PG
EVALUATED 01/22/2021
Jerry Meyer
DIRECTOR OF BASKETBALL SCOUTING
PROJECTION
First Round
Bradley has solid length and upper level strength for a point guard. Has good straight line speed with the basketball and tremendous body control. Adept at weaving through traffic, adjusts speed on a dime and can contort himself for tough finishes in the lane. He is not an explosive leaper and rarely plays above the rim. He does, however, jump well off two feet in traffic as a rebounder. As a shooter, he prefers to pull up in the midrange. Shoots the three ball just well enough to keep defenses honest. Handles and finishes well with either hand. Sees the court extremely well and delivers the well timed and accurate pass. Plays with a lot of strength and composure. Has room to improve lateral foot quickness defensively but has tremendous hands on defense. They are active and strong. Comes up with steals.
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RYLAN GRIFFEN, SG (6'5, 180 LBS)
****, #36 OVR, #2 SG
EVALUATED 07/24/2021
Brandon Jenkins
RECRUIITNG ANALYST
PROJECTION
Power-5 Starter
A scoring guard whose game is predicated upon upside, Griffen will be as good as he wants to be in the game of basketball. He has the tools to evolve into a high-level defender and the upside to be a tough shot maker who can put the ball in the basket in a variety of ways. Griffin can score from all three-levels on the floor and is a solid shooter but he could still use some improvement in that area of the game. Improving his shot selection at times could enhance his development in that area and increase his overall field goal percentages. He has solid length combined with elite bounce. If given a path to the rim, he is bound to make something special happen above the rim that is highlight worthy. A very thin and slight framed swingman, adding weight and muscle will be key in Griffen's production at the high major level. Overall, Griffen is an extremely talented prospect. His ceiling will be determined by him getting physically and functionally stronger and remaining engaged in all areas that impact winning.
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NOAH CLOWNEY, PF (6'9, 205 LBS)
****, #85 OVR, #14 PF
EVALUATED 11/01/2021
Jerry Meyer
DIRECTOR OF BASKETBALL SCOUTING
PROJECTION
Second Round
Is thin but has the frame to put on weight. Is a long 6-9/6-10. Moves his feet well and has good hands. Is a mobile and good athlete who is developing the strength to make more plays in traffic. Has three-point shooting range and can finish post moves with either hand. Has a go-to move in the post with his right hand jump hook. Catches well on the move. Built for pick and pop and pick and roll situations. Not a big ball handler but can attack the basket with a couple dribbles. Has a quick first step/dribble. Not a creative passer but has the awareness to make the proper read. Can defend the basket but needs to get stronger to control space down low. Has the lateral quickness to defend ball screen situations. Will go and get a rebound, but can be out muscled. Has a ton of upside. Strength gain is the key.
Fvckin damn it
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Nick Pringle, 3-star JUCO PF, Dodge City (Kan.) Dodge City C.C.
Rated the No. 1 junior college power guard and the No. 2 junior college player in the country
Committed to Alabama: 11/4/21
What Nate Oats said about Pringle:
"We are very excited to sign such an athletic and skilled big man like Nick. He already has college experience both at the D-I and junior college levels. We have a history of success with junior college players here, particularly finding ones who may have flown under the radar, similar to James Rojas and Keon Ellis. We think he gives us a different dimension in the frontcourt. He may be the most versatile and athletic forward in all of junior college basketball right now. We are looking forward to adding an experienced frontcourt player to the roster next season."
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:38 pm to phil4bama
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It's time to throw that shite out the window and play Johnson, and KAH and the others. If we are going to lose, let's do it with kids busting their arse trying.
I mean we tried that last night. Johnson and Rojas played a bunch. Johnson missed all his shots and Rojas was a fvckin offensive black hole.
There's nobody else down the bench to throw in there and shake things up. It is what it is.
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