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re: The new Alabama abortion law, like it or no?

Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:16 pm to
The ten commandments are certainly considered to be sin by God, and God hates all sin. All people are separated from God by sin. Christians just believe that God sent his son to make it possible to be saved from eternal separation (Hell). But the Bible is clear that God hates sin and will execute his wrath on upon him who doeth evil.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:19 pm to
Ok? Not sure what any of that has to do with the post you responded to.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:20 pm to
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The ten commandments are certainly considered to be sin by God, and God hates all sin. All people are separated from God by sin. Christians just believe that God sent his son to make it possible to be saved from eternal separation (Hell). But the Bible is clear that God hates sin and will execute his wrath on upon him who doeth evil.

What does any of this have to do with the laws in Alabama?
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:44 pm to
Maybe this question has already been answered. If so, then I apologize, but I'm not reading through what I figure is a shite show

Does the new Alabama law have anything that prevents a person from going to a neighboring state to get an abortion?
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:45 pm to
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What does any of this have to do with the laws in Alabama?


surely you jest. I doubt there is another state in the union that is more likely to vote according to the religion of the residents.

edit: and yes, it may very well be struck down, but that's what it has to do with "the laws in Alabama"
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18204 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:20 pm to
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. I doubt there is another state in the union that is more likely to vote according to the religion of the residents.

Utah?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:24 pm to
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Does the new Alabama law have anything that prevents a person from going to a neighboring state to get an abortion?




No. Georgia's does though.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37665 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:40 pm to
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No. Georgia's does though.


Can't see how that would ever hold up
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:46 pm to
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That's like saying you cant stop murder, so dont legislate.

You cant stop any crime, so dont legislate.


You don't have half the population wanting murder to be legal. That's the difference.

The laws are set up for society to function best according to the desires of the majority as a group. Nearly everyone wants murder to be illegal, so it is.

Regarding abortion, a huge part of the population thinks that it's not only NOT immoral, but that a woman should have a right to it.

When half the population is demanding a basic right to murder, while the other half wants it abolished for religious reasons, then your point would hold up. Until then, it's garbage.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:48 pm to
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God said to Job, before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.


God said TO JOB.

TO JOB.

NOT TO ANYONE ELSE. THIS VERSE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HUMAN CONCEPTION AT ALL. IT"S ABOUT GOD'S ABILITY TO SEE THE FUTURE.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:48 pm to
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No. Georgia's does though.

Wow, I have no idea how hey would enforce these.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37665 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:00 pm to
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Wow, I have no idea how hey would enforce these.


It's like saying I went to Colorado on vacation to smoke weed and they are going to arrest me for it in Georgia
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:02 pm to
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You don't have half the population wanting murder to be legal. That's the difference.

The laws are set up for society to function best according to the desires of the majority as a group. Nearly everyone wants murder to be illegal, so it is.

Regarding abortion, a huge part of the population thinks that it's not only NOT immoral, but that a woman should have a right to it.



I'd be really interested to see what the result of a national vote to ban abortions after the first trimester would be. I might be wrong, but I suspect it would pass overwhelmingly.
Posted by newtonjg
Fayetteville NC
Member since Jan 2016
135 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:11 pm to
I hate to sound lazy but can someone please give me the cliff notes of this law: I am in Colombia (the Country not city) and my wife started yelling because Alabama made the local news. WTH did we as a state do now?
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18314 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:12 pm to
Probably, that's what France has.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18204 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:03 pm to
Agreed.

I have very personal views based on what life is and when it begins that are completely removed from religion.

But, it is a personal conviction that may or may not fit the majority view.

I hate the incest rape of a juvenile argument, as it is just poor debate tactics. It is an extreme, very isolated incident meant to appeal to emotion. So, I am not talking about that extreme.

That said, I would support the "women's right to choose" if state's required a best attempt at identification of the father and his consent as well. Further, any man that does not want a child while the woman chooses to keep it should have every "right" to waive his obligation to the child.

Personally, I feel a man should live up to his obligations in all things, killing conceived human life is wrong, but, above all, the rules should be balanced for both partners. The right to abortion or choice to bear a child is solely a woman's choice at the moment and that is wrong.



Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4415 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:40 pm to
Just not comfortable with dead babies being stacked like cord wood.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 11:41 pm to
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Just not comfortable with dead babies being stacked like cord wood.


Reductio ad absurdum.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:21 am to
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I hate to sound lazy but can someone please give me the cliff notes of this law: I am in Colombia (the Country not city) and my wife started yelling because Alabama made the local news. WTH did we as a state do now?



It bans all abortions after the heartbeat can be detected - roughly 6 weeks. And it has no exceptions for rape or incest. It punishes any doctor that performs an abortion with up to 99 years in prison.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:19 am to
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God said TO JOB. TO JOB. NOT TO ANYONE ELSE. THIS VERSE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HUMAN CONCEPTION AT ALL. IT"S ABOUT GOD'S ABILITY TO SEE THE FUTURE.


Dude, this is patently ridiculous.

Psalm 139 - 13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. 14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. 15 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.

Job 31:15 “Did not He who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same one form both of us within our mothers?”

Psalm 22:10. “From my mother’s womb you have been my God”.

Isaiah 44:24
quote:

Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb: “I am the Lord, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself,


Genesis 9:6
quote:

From his fellow man I will require a reckoning for the life of man. 6“Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image.



I don’t know what your motivations are for misrepresenting the Word of God, but He will not hold blameless those who blaspheme and mock His Word.

In all seriousness, friend, repent of this wickedness. God is a consuming fire (Hebrews 12:29) and It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Hebrews 10:31).






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