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re: Some of you just need to log off until spring ball starts

Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:40 pm to
Any chance you know an LSU fan named Andy in Destin?
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24350 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:45 pm to
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Oh for sure. He's a FOG shithead whose life will lose all meaning without Alabama football.


He's a Falcons fan now
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:46 pm to
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He's a Falcons fan now



LOL boy is he in for a rude awakening.

Welcome to hell buddy.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44390 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:48 pm to
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After seeing what’s happening, I’m dumbfounded that Alabama didnt have a better plan.


I'm not. Byrne knows how to identify and hire coaches in an efficient, professional manner, which is admittedly more than many ADs can say, but beyond that I don't think he's good at his job.
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
2784 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:49 pm to
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We had no plan and now it’s uncertain if we have a functioning football team Idk if I can be convinced that it has to be this way.



There definitely was a plan. Go out and get the best coach available. I think we did that. His staff hires so far are all great as well. As for retaining the roster I mean what can you do except meet with them and hope they're on board with the new direction of the team?

As for ponying up the money to keep guys around from what Boz says we did all we could and just got outbid. And it seems like Proctor truly just wants to go closer to home. It is what it is.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:50 pm to
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After seeing what’s happening, I’m dumbfounded that Alabama didnt have a better plan.

It’s the Wild West out here and we had zero plan, even though the coaching search went really well.

You simply have to pony up and keep a select few core players in times like this. If Downs, Bond, and pick about 4 others are in on things from the very start of this and the messaging is positive and leadership is on the same page, there’s no way it reaches this chaotic point.

Paying some HS kid millions in hopes he pans out is a far cry from having a fricking plan and paying your guys to keep the program pointed in the right direction.

We had no plan and now it’s uncertain if we have a functioning football team Idk if I can be convinced that it has to be this way.

You know how firms are hired to help out during mergers and shite? How does a program like Alabama not have something like that in place for HC departures nowadays?

Did they even halfway ponder if it was the worst possible time for Saban to step down?
Sorry for the 2nd long post.


I hate when I type a long post and it’s at the of the previous page.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
775 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:54 pm to
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I bet you were an absolute stud.


LMAO, not nearly as much of a stud as I thought I was the day before I arrived.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44390 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:56 pm to
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He's a Falcons fan now




Rage quitting on Alabama just to turn to the gold standard in football ineptitude? I mean frick dude at least go with a serious outfit like Pittsburgh, Green Bay, or San Francisco. The Falcons are like the South Carolina of the NFL.
Posted by FWBFLlaw
Member since Aug 2018
2390 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:58 pm to
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Had I been in niceville I would have. I went to beach walk, they have a famous burger there. If you haven’t been you will thank me later. Or we can go and you can experience it for the first time and bitch about football.


Definitely, when my court schedule isn’t packed. Just wish we could have done it when Surge was still around. It would have been awesome. Man I miss that guy. He would have been nuking threads left and right.

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There definitely was a plan. Go out and get the best coach available. I think we did that. His staff hires so far are all great as well. As for retaining the roster I mean what can you do except meet with them and hope they're on board with the new direction of the team? As for ponying up the money to keep guys around from what Boz says we did all we could and just got outbid. And it seems like Proctor truly just wants to go closer to home. It is what it is.


This. How do we know there wasn’t a plan in place. We don’t know what went on behind close doors, and Boz mentioned there was an effort to keep players. Honestly, I think we are just in a new day and age with NIL. I don’t think anyone could have seen this coming to this extent. Unfortunately, it will happen at the next school unless something changes. Just look at UW and Arizona, both schools are losing players at the same rate if not higher. Everyone can laugh until their coach leaves or is fired. I do agree with another post, if anything this has created a new field for people to assist with roster management.
Posted by hwnd
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:00 pm to
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SummerOfGeorge
Sadly, I have but one upvote to give. But know that I would give more, had I the opportunity.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83521 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:02 pm to
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There definitely was a plan. Go out and get the best coach available. I think we did that.
There is WAAAAAAAAY more to it nowadays with NIL and transfer portal and timing.
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As for retaining the roster I mean what can you do except meet with them and hope they're on board with the new direction of the team?
We got outbid for every transfer we wanted to keep? That doesn’t even sound possible lol. We might not be Texas aTm but we aren’t broke af.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1770 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:05 pm to
What’s the plan, force these people to stay at gunpoint? Force Saban to stay until “the right time” at gunpoint even if he wants to go to the house?

This is the lay of the land right now in college football and it is not going to change appreciably moving forward. It’s no nefarious plot to specifically tear us down.

We adapt or die.

And eventually the portal will swing both ways and payback is hell.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16995 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:07 pm to
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Definitely, when my court schedule isn’t packed. Just wish we could have done it when Surge was still around. It would have been awesome. Man I miss that guy. He would have been nuking threads left and right.


Absolutely let me know when, I believe you have my email.


Surge would being going apeshit right now. I can’t even imagine.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
3303 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:09 pm to
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After seeing what’s happening, I’m dumbfounded that Alabama didnt have a better plan.


Of course, but that is easy to say in retrospect. However, it's becoming more clear that Saban really did go to work one day and found that hiring another round of coaches was just too much and, in a moment of clarity, he said frick it.

Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11670 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:10 pm to
He was tired of F with NIL and players and their mothers with the hands out.

Read this article about Tom Izzo and how he is trying to manage NIL.

LINK /

Izzo believes Saban, 72, got out for a lot of NIL and portal-related reasons. They met as coaching pups in the 1980s, when they were still finding their place in their respective sports.

"At the end of the day, the kids are the ones who are going to lose," Izzo said re: NIL legislation and the transfer portal and little resistance to multi-time transfers with immediate eligibility. It's a maxim he's been sharing for a few years now with anyone who will listen.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52746 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:23 pm to
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Destin.



Nice, I'm in Pensacola. Haven't even been to Destin since I moved down here.
Posted by Wulfgar
Member since Jan 2013
1212 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:40 pm to
FWB native. Was one of only two to attend FWBHS in the 80’s who were brave enough to wear Bama gear Moved to South Alabama years ago but FWB is always home.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83521 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:41 pm to
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What’s the plan, force these people to stay at gunpoint?
The players like money.

Pay them enough to stay. If talks fall through then say thanks for all you’ve done for us and move on to the next player.
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Force Saban to stay until “the right time” at gunpoint even if he wants to go to the house?
I don’t think it’s too much to ask for it not to be a surprise and for some discussion to take place during the most opportune time. I didn’t say anything about forcing him to coach for a few more years.

But there has to be a better plan than uhhhh, let’s see, opening our portal right after the country’s portal closes.
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This is the lay of the land right now in college football and it is not going to change appreciably moving forward
Yeah, that’s what I’m saying.

Gone are the days where you can just hire the new coach and everything is good. DRASTIC steps should be taken to ensure the program isn’t essentially given the death penalty every time a coach leaves.


With these rules, you lose your team if you go about coaching changes like you did in the past. Which means you should do EVERYTHING in your power to be ready. Because…….YOU LOSE YOUR TEAM IF YOU DON’T.

The is isn’t about 1 player. I’m not melting that it’s going to be tough for a bit moving forward. It seems like I’m close to the only one recognizing how important it is to have a better plan in today’s game.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83521 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:54 pm to
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However, it's becoming more clear that Saban really did go to work one day and found that hiring another round of coaches was just too much and, in a moment of clarity, he said frick it.
And that means a few days after the transfer portal closed, Saban opened up our entire roster to the country. A country who would do ANYTHING to see us never win another game ever again.

There is NO doubt programs are erring on the side of overpaying a little bit to get our guys. Adding a ~#3WR is nice for FSU. Raiding our entire roster no matter what player it is is good for EVERYONE.

It did not have to be that way.


How’d the players find out? I’m a wildly chaotic breaking news situation where they all had hundreds of calls and texts from family, friends, and teammates? And recruiters from other schools promising who knows what?


How, in today’s CFB, are the players not notified FIRST? And how is there not a serious effort to sit down the core guys and come up with a plan? Incentivize the plan and message moving forward. Get the whole core you have onboard preaching a positive message and a look to the future as the organization, that is on the same page, looks for the new coach.

Of course players will leave. Some already had before Saban announced.

But whatever we did was not a plan. There doesn’t seem like a single thought was put into anything other than frantically trying to throw money at a player after the snowball was out of control down the mountain.
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
1905 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 4:02 pm to
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Pay them enough to stay.


The problem is you're trying to outbid multiple schools for your own guys. It's not hard to outbid someone if you're just focusing on one or two dudes from a batch of 85. That's what our competitors are doing at this point. Focusing on the 1-2 guys from our roster that can help them out (because chances are anyone on our roster at any given position is better than a dude on theirs)

We don't have enough money to outbid EVERYONE for all of these kids. It's simple math at this point. That's why this one way portal thing is such nonsense. These kids know they can hop in, and there will be at least 1-2 schools (maybe more) that are going to be offering a few hundred thousand, if not 1-2 mil depending on who it is.

Bama has money, but they don't have more money than the rest of our competitors combined lol
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 4:05 pm
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