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re: Indiana Hubris Against Bama Is a Bit Much
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/24/25 at 1:09 pm to skrayper
Its more the notion of Bama winning being dismissed entirely that is weird see
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re: Gene Chestnik-“Indiana is going to roll Alabama. They’re a better team
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/24/25 at 11:17 am to TheTideMustRoll
Yeah Vandy shares similarity with Indiana given they are a much less talented team consistently punching well above their weight. The differences though are favorable for us though I think.
Vandy is good though because they have an athletic QB who can create something out of nothing due to his athleticism and improvisation. This allows him to get the ball to the decently talented weapons they’ve acquired in the last 2 years. This approach traditionally gives defenses problems, and is not even all that new. Stetson Bennett, Manziel, Mayfield…older DT QBs that went under the radar to Heisman winners or contenders has been going on for over a decade. I’m sure there’s more too, I’m just not remembering back very far lol
Indiana is good, imo, because of their average age and experience across several positions. That being said, while Mendoza is a good QB, I am happy to say he does not present the same dual threat concerns of a Pavia, Mateer, Castellanos, Sellers or even a Stockton really. These style players typically stress our defense much more than the style of play he prefers.
Having LT back is great because we’ll need pressure to try and force the type of game Oregon and Penn St were able to get from the Heisman winner.
Vandy is good though because they have an athletic QB who can create something out of nothing due to his athleticism and improvisation. This allows him to get the ball to the decently talented weapons they’ve acquired in the last 2 years. This approach traditionally gives defenses problems, and is not even all that new. Stetson Bennett, Manziel, Mayfield…older DT QBs that went under the radar to Heisman winners or contenders has been going on for over a decade. I’m sure there’s more too, I’m just not remembering back very far lol
Indiana is good, imo, because of their average age and experience across several positions. That being said, while Mendoza is a good QB, I am happy to say he does not present the same dual threat concerns of a Pavia, Mateer, Castellanos, Sellers or even a Stockton really. These style players typically stress our defense much more than the style of play he prefers.
Having LT back is great because we’ll need pressure to try and force the type of game Oregon and Penn St were able to get from the Heisman winner.
re: Gene Chestnik-“Indiana is going to roll Alabama. They’re a better team
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/24/25 at 9:14 am to bamatide07
Yeah it’s actually pretty interesting when you look at the contenders from a talent standpoint.
Indiana had faced just 3 teams in the top 25 of the talent composite (Oregon, Penn St and OSU). All were close games considering Indiana was <50% chance to win mid 4th quarter in each of these games, with Penn St blowing a 92.9% chance to win at just the 2:00 min mark.
Ohio State actually has only faced 3 teams in the top 25 of the talent composite as well (Texas, Penn St, Michigan). Ohio State fared a bit better in terms of outcomes in these games with more convincing wins against Penn State and Michigan.
Miami has faced 4 (SMU, ND, Florida, FSU), Oregon has faced 2 (Penn St & USC), and Texas Tech hasn’t faced a team in the top 30.
Meanwhile…
Ole Miss has faced 5 going 4-1.
Georgia has faced 8 (Bama twice), going 7-1.
Texas A&M faced 10 (including Miami), going 8-2.
And Bama has faced 10 (Georgia twice, Oklahoma twice), going 7-3.
So when people say Bama is “more battle tested,” from a talent standpoint you could say they’re the most battle tested of any team still in the field.
When comparing opponents, here is the closest team from a talent perspective each team has played:
Miami: OSU (973.69) -> A&M (917.29) or ND (912.11)
Ohio State: Miami (874.57) -> Michigan (907.22)
Oregon: Texas Tech (757.49) -> Wisconsin (763.17)
Texas Tech: Oregon (941.22) -> Arizona State (738.52) :lol:
Georgia: Ole Miss (played already)
Ole Miss: Georgia (played already)
Indiana: Bama (993.55) -> OSU (973.69)
Bama: Indiana (645.34) -> Vandy (685.42)
Interesting of note is that Indiana would be the 2nd “least talented” FBS team Bama has played all season. I’m not saying in any way this guarantees a win, however as others have said, if both teams play to their potential, we should be in good shape given what we’ve already seen along the way compared to them
Indiana had faced just 3 teams in the top 25 of the talent composite (Oregon, Penn St and OSU). All were close games considering Indiana was <50% chance to win mid 4th quarter in each of these games, with Penn St blowing a 92.9% chance to win at just the 2:00 min mark.
Ohio State actually has only faced 3 teams in the top 25 of the talent composite as well (Texas, Penn St, Michigan). Ohio State fared a bit better in terms of outcomes in these games with more convincing wins against Penn State and Michigan.
Miami has faced 4 (SMU, ND, Florida, FSU), Oregon has faced 2 (Penn St & USC), and Texas Tech hasn’t faced a team in the top 30.
Meanwhile…
Ole Miss has faced 5 going 4-1.
Georgia has faced 8 (Bama twice), going 7-1.
Texas A&M faced 10 (including Miami), going 8-2.
And Bama has faced 10 (Georgia twice, Oklahoma twice), going 7-3.
So when people say Bama is “more battle tested,” from a talent standpoint you could say they’re the most battle tested of any team still in the field.
When comparing opponents, here is the closest team from a talent perspective each team has played:
Miami: OSU (973.69) -> A&M (917.29) or ND (912.11)
Ohio State: Miami (874.57) -> Michigan (907.22)
Oregon: Texas Tech (757.49) -> Wisconsin (763.17)
Texas Tech: Oregon (941.22) -> Arizona State (738.52) :lol:
Georgia: Ole Miss (played already)
Ole Miss: Georgia (played already)
Indiana: Bama (993.55) -> OSU (973.69)
Bama: Indiana (645.34) -> Vandy (685.42)
Interesting of note is that Indiana would be the 2nd “least talented” FBS team Bama has played all season. I’m not saying in any way this guarantees a win, however as others have said, if both teams play to their potential, we should be in good shape given what we’ve already seen along the way compared to them
re: Gene Chestnik-“Indiana is going to roll Alabama. They’re a better team
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/24/25 at 7:22 am to SummerOfGeorge
There's more to football than just talent obviously, and one thing that can combat talent is experience
Indiana is an old team. More positions than not are manned by a 4th year, and many positions are 5th years. I do think this is a huge reason why they’ve been able to match more talented teams, but even then they’re not dominating these teams so much as taking advantages of mistakes made by youthful/talented teams while minimizing their own. The Oregon and Ohio St games were close, but that Penn St game showed that even a coach less team with superior talent could stress them and put them in a situation where a miraculous/lucky play is needed to win
Minimizing our own mistakes is the biggest point of emphasis here. We’ll be the most talented roster they’ve played all year, and we are having young players step up at the right time.
I’m really looking forward to the match up
Indiana is an old team. More positions than not are manned by a 4th year, and many positions are 5th years. I do think this is a huge reason why they’ve been able to match more talented teams, but even then they’re not dominating these teams so much as taking advantages of mistakes made by youthful/talented teams while minimizing their own. The Oregon and Ohio St games were close, but that Penn St game showed that even a coach less team with superior talent could stress them and put them in a situation where a miraculous/lucky play is needed to win
Minimizing our own mistakes is the biggest point of emphasis here. We’ll be the most talented roster they’ve played all year, and we are having young players step up at the right time.
I’m really looking forward to the match up
re: Indiana’s defense is elite and a tough matchup against Alabama | Realistic expectations
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/23/25 at 9:20 am to Bham4Tide
I get that they have beat Oregon and Ohio State, but those are essentially the only two games they’ve had to get up for. The next most talented team they played was a coach less Penn St which absolutely should’ve beat them.
The talent disparity is significant, and I think the reason they were able to beat Oregon specifically was having an extremely experienced QB/WR combo against what is mostly a freshmen/sophomore secondary. Almost every position has a starter that’s been in college 4 years at least, so basically they’re just really old compared to their competition.
As far as their defense goes, losing their best DL will be interesting to see given they have been relatively healthy all season. Not sure they have the depth to replace his production but we’ll find out
I’m unusually confident, and think our B+ game gets us a win here
The talent disparity is significant, and I think the reason they were able to beat Oregon specifically was having an extremely experienced QB/WR combo against what is mostly a freshmen/sophomore secondary. Almost every position has a starter that’s been in college 4 years at least, so basically they’re just really old compared to their competition.
As far as their defense goes, losing their best DL will be interesting to see given they have been relatively healthy all season. Not sure they have the depth to replace his production but we’ll find out
I’m unusually confident, and think our B+ game gets us a win here
Michigan fans down bad
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/19/25 at 11:23 pm
With Bama handling Oklahoma comfortably in Norman to move on to the next round of the playoffs, Michigan fans realizing a Brian Kelly tenure is becoming more and more likely
Merry Christmas everyone!
Merry Christmas everyone!
re: Alabama 34 @ Oklahoma 24 Final - ABC
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/19/25 at 6:23 pm to Mediocre
Can confirm. If it’s a disc issue, there’s very little you can do to mitigate the pain aside from a full blown epidural
re: Summeral just won aac
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/6/25 at 7:27 am to Jugbow
Congrats to both coaches for doing what they believe is best for them, but the way Sumrall has handled his coaching change >>> the way Lane handled his
re: Hypothetical with a Georgia loss, who grabs the last top 4 seed?
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/4/25 at 2:54 pm to StansberryRules
I think if OSU whips Indiana, they'll drop at least 1 spot. Their spot is propped up by only 2 things...being undefeated, and the Oregon win. The Oregon win will remain, but if they lose, let alone lose big, their schedule is atrocious after that.
Out of 9 in-conference games, they played the 12th, 13th, 15th, 16th, 17th, and 18th place teams. 46% W-L ratio against conference opponents. Average talent composite they've faced is 53rd. I'm not convinced they don't get their arse whipped again in the first playoff game they play.
Out of 9 in-conference games, they played the 12th, 13th, 15th, 16th, 17th, and 18th place teams. 46% W-L ratio against conference opponents. Average talent composite they've faced is 53rd. I'm not convinced they don't get their arse whipped again in the first playoff game they play.
re: Hypothetical with a Georgia loss, who grabs the last top 4 seed?
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/4/25 at 2:44 pm to Vandyfan69420xxx
Depends on a few things
A. How bad does OSU beat Indiana?
B. Assuming Texas Tech wins, how bad do they beat BYU?
C. How close is the SEC Championship (Bama wins)?
I think if OSU wins by 14+, TTU wins 14+ and Bama wins <7pts, they'll do OSU, TTU, Indiana, Bama, UGA, Oregon
They'd have 2 wins over the #3 team in the penultimate poll. Fell 6 spots for losing to current #8 just a few weeks ago. Not unreasonable to jump 5 by beating the current #3 again
UGA would have 2 losses but to the same team that's likely to be top 5. Best win is current #6.
Oregon has a 10pt loss to #3, best win is #16.
A. How bad does OSU beat Indiana?
B. Assuming Texas Tech wins, how bad do they beat BYU?
C. How close is the SEC Championship (Bama wins)?
I think if OSU wins by 14+, TTU wins 14+ and Bama wins <7pts, they'll do OSU, TTU, Indiana, Bama, UGA, Oregon
They'd have 2 wins over the #3 team in the penultimate poll. Fell 6 spots for losing to current #8 just a few weeks ago. Not unreasonable to jump 5 by beating the current #3 again
UGA would have 2 losses but to the same team that's likely to be top 5. Best win is current #6.
Oregon has a 10pt loss to #3, best win is #16.
re: Class of 2026 Football Recruiting
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/4/25 at 11:34 am to jjv0004
Sounds like Cam Coleman is going to be available for a bid
re: Bama making it in over Texas...fair or not?
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/3/25 at 7:36 am to Darindawg
Bama’s 3rd loss would come to a team they also already beat, so it nets out
You sound scared of potentially losing to Bama 3x in one year, and are lobbying for a worse team to get in so you can feel safe
You sound scared of potentially losing to Bama 3x in one year, and are lobbying for a worse team to get in so you can feel safe
re: Did Kiffin actually pray?
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/2/25 at 10:21 pm to JamalMurry27
re: College Football Nerds on BAMA
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/2/25 at 2:07 pm to crimsoncoded94
Basically, with the regular season completed, we now have full resume's for all teams sans conference championship games which should be viewed almost separately
Comparing Bama's full resume to that of Notre Dame's after a settled field of results, Bama's is better.
Full stop.
For this reason, Bama will jump Notre Dame as somewhat of a "course correction" from the previous mistake of keeping ND ahead of Bama. Vegas knows this, which is why they are placing significantly better odds for Bama than ND
Comparing Bama's full resume to that of Notre Dame's after a settled field of results, Bama's is better.
Full stop.
For this reason, Bama will jump Notre Dame as somewhat of a "course correction" from the previous mistake of keeping ND ahead of Bama. Vegas knows this, which is why they are placing significantly better odds for Bama than ND
re: What play from this Iron Bowl will be remembered more?
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 12/2/25 at 12:36 pm to mistaken4193
Has to be 4th and 2
Vast majority of pundits and podcasts have talked about how they are taking the FG 100 times out of 100 in that situation
And we know Kirby would to, because he basically did the exact same thing against us and failed miserably
Vast majority of pundits and podcasts have talked about how they are taking the FG 100 times out of 100 in that situation
And we know Kirby would to, because he basically did the exact same thing against us and failed miserably
re: Bama lost a season opening OOC game to a team that lost badly to Florida. Now 2 losses
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 11/30/25 at 4:50 pm to Ag Zwin
quote:
Bama lost a season opening OOC game to a team that just fired their coach.
Did this news just break or something
re: Lane’s conversations and advice from Nick Saban and Pete Carroll
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 11/30/25 at 3:43 pm to Rohan Gravy
Saban not letting Bama hire him right after his retirement, then sending him to LSU for a few years so he can continue to grow before he takes over and provides 4-5 more natties to the Bama faithful
Prophecy going according to plan
Prophecy going according to plan
re: SECCG should Bama make it
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 11/26/25 at 12:07 pm to LaneB
quote:
IF we make the SECCG, is it possible -
1) for Bama to decline participation
2) if participating can the game end in tie so that SEC ensures maximum teams in playoffs?
frick this
re: Who gets priority for the final at large playoff spot if we have a wild finish?
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 11/23/25 at 9:32 am to Gator Fever
The last thing you want is to be idle and on the fringe during conf champ week
Especially if you have 3 losses
Especially if you have 3 losses
re: Alabama leads the conference in total defense for the first time since 2017...
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 11/23/25 at 9:28 am to RollTide1987
First thing I do when I look at stats is filter out FCS games
Next thing I do is completely ignore low value stats which is basically anything that start with “total”
Next thing I do is completely ignore low value stats which is basically anything that start with “total”
re: Does Bama move in front of ND this week?
Posted by HighTide_ATL on 11/23/25 at 9:14 am to LSUbasketballfan
quote:
ND lost two close games to top 15 teams. Bama lost one close to a top 15 team, but also lost by two touchdowns to a terrible team. It’s not that hard to understand.
This would make sense if they had comparable win résumé’s. They don’t.
Everyone was assured wins would have a greater emphasis, but the committee has shown that is a farce given anyone defending ND points to losses, not the wins
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