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Roger Shultz on the BAMA offense

Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:51 pm
LINK

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Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24448 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:56 pm to
It was a horrible sign when we were still playing musical chairs on the OL half way into the season
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
1531 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:59 pm to
Valid points. I’ve 8 in the box and the play is a passing play but the receivers are running 40 yards downfield, WAAAAY too long for that play to develop.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20010 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:02 pm to
Makes a ton of sense frankly.
Posted by MrPigskin
Member since Sep 2023
1092 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:10 pm to
That’s pretty eye opening from a guy who would understand. Good post.
Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
1909 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:12 pm to
Grubb needs to go. I've watched enough of our offense to see we have several issues on offense and most of them all go back to Grubb. Problem here is Deboer obviously backs what Grubb does and has no plans to fire him. Grubb will ultimately be Deboer's downfall at Bama.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 9:23 pm
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
12595 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:14 pm to
He’s not wrong
Posted by Chris ALL Capps
Member since Jan 2024
520 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:06 pm to
Reminds me of that year LSU had Matt Canada calling plays. Just a bunch of wasted, useless window dressing motion. Starting to think Grubb is just going through the motions and doesn't want to be here. Been dealing with shite like that since Bill O'Brien came on board.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
8596 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:41 pm to
If Grubb truly doesn't want to be here, then he needs to get his offense to remove their thumbs from their asses and show some real firepower to get some job offers coming in.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23073 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:44 pm to
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Grubb is just going through the motions and doesn't want to be here


I just think Grubb doesn't know what he's doing. This is the same offense he had at Washington. He's made the offense too big a mess for Ty to figure out. If Deboer had a real OC his mind would be blown.
Posted by coldbeerfan
Orange Beach RTR Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
1560 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 6:00 am to
Rodger knows football and can explain it better in layman terms than anyone else. I really enjoyed his radio show in Montgomery years ago.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
6412 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 6:51 am to
Yeah. I'm starting to come around to belief that this is a scheme problem.
Im NOT sure if it is solely a Grubb problem. DeBoer likes this system. There is going to have to be a change to a more physical, less nuance based offensive system.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46044 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:37 am to
I've been skeptical of his use of motion on run plays for a while. We intentionally bring more defenders into the box before calling a run multiple times a game. Oats needs to come in and teach them remedial math.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9934 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:42 am to
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Makes a ton of sense frankly.


The same things work that worked back then. Maybe instead of hiring these 20 something year old analysts...you hire these old timers who have walked that walk and have seen a lot of football.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
13379 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:04 am to
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Oats needs to come in and teach them remedial math.
They could use an Oats approach in a number of phases. How many times do we see Ty attempt a field side boundary throw to pick up a 1st down on short yardage? That's a 36-yard pass. The math isn't there on the risk/reward.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
18936 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:20 am to
Saban still getting paid $500K from BAMA? You'd think Saban would give him a call.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19341 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:23 am to
That scheme worked well before. Difference is the QB play.

Even on the plays with 8 to 9 near the box any moron would tell you a 3 step drop and fade to your fastest WR would feed families... instead our guy wants to hold and wait for the pre-determined route he wants to throw.

There has to be accountability here.

Which is the main issue. It's incredible in every NFL or high level CFB game the QBs don't havr 5 seconds for every pass but we expect to have that ?

Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20310 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:25 am to
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Valid points. I’ve 8 in the box and the play is a passing play but the receivers are running 40 yards downfield, WAAAAY too long for that play to develop.

Yeah I defend a lot of things but the audible into a tight stack formation to run the ball is insane.

Hasn't worked outside of E IL all season and if I had to guess its our most commonly used formation in the second half of the year.

Would love someone to explain the logic on that to run the ball when the safeties arent deep.
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
1245 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:39 am to
Usually you do that when your line is trash. We can’t block 1v1, too slow for zone. So he brings in more hats which in turn brings in more defenders. It’s probably why we didn’t even try to run the ball vs UGA. We knew we couldn’t.

I like the scheme but it’s being called stupidity. Someone above mentioned it, you can’t have long developing routes when there’s 8 in the box and they are bringing pressure. There’s a lot working against deboer. Piss poor line play and the wrong pieces he needs. Horrible RB play, hopefully that is remedied next season. Also a head case for a qb who for all we know is checking into the very plays we are bitching about
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 8:40 am
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1311 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 8:40 am to
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I’ve 8 in the box and the play is a passing play but the receivers are running 40 yards downfield, WAAAAY too long for that play to develop.


Is there no one in the coaching room that notices this and says "Hey, we probably need to make an adjustment."
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