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re: Off Topic: Governor's race. Walt Maddox vs. Kay Ivey

Posted on 6/10/18 at 6:14 pm to
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 6:14 pm to
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such as who? I just can't recall any appointments to agencies that matter.


Here are 4 right off the top of my head that were regular state employees, two of whom I know personally and neither of which ever thought they would get the chance to lead an agency because all they did was be really good at their jobs.

Chris Blankenship, Conservation
Todd Cotton, Senior Services
Vern Barnett, Revenue
Hal Taylor, ALEA

Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:16 am to
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over 650,000 people in AL voted for a guy that was fired from his 2 previous public office jobs for incompetence and molested children.

that is f'n amazing

Ever heard of Marion Barry?
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24467 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:19 am to
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However, the one group of people who would absolutely have an issue with her lifestyle are the republicans who she is depending on for votes. Therein lies the problem.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 9:27 am to
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Anyone thinks Maddox has a shot?


No.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 9:29 am to
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So he's really not a moderate


He's actually more of a globalist Socialist.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 9:32 am to
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Ever heard of Marion Barry?

Only in one or two comedy bits. And?
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
3907 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:52 pm to
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globalist Socialist.


Those two terms aren't inherently exclusive, but in modern use, they represent two vary different platforms. Globalist comes from neo-liberal economic theory, which is primarily supported by centrists.

Socialism is a democratic remedy (as opposed to a communist remedy) to conflict theory as described by Marx and C Wright Mills, primarily supported by far left liberals.

A globalist can be for socialist policies, but it is not typical since globalism relies so heavily on capitalism.

Though pure socialists are rare, they are strongly against globalism, as they are strongly against capitalism and corporations.

If you remember, the radical left of the 90s was largely against world trade organizations.
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 1:00 pm
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 2:15 pm to
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Fells


I'm well aware of the two terms.

If you Mr/Ms Fells new anything about Maddox, you'd understand those two terms describe him perfectly.

Have a nice day.
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
3907 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 2:54 pm to
I don't know much about Maddox, other than his website and word of mouth.

I am struggling though to find any "socialism" in his rhetoric.

The closest thing I saw was accepting Medicaid expansion, which is still very far away from socialism.

Other than that, there's increased public school expenditures but it's not like he's suggesting making that any more socialist.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6457 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 6:54 pm to
Does Maddox still carry around that ax handle?
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18302 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 7:29 pm to
It's suicide to run as a socialist in American society (for now). You call yourself a progressive or a liberal (a term FDR hijacked from classical liberals). The goal is incrementalism towards big government.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20469 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:49 pm to
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Only in one or two comedy bits. And?




You don't have to troll the board with every post, you know.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:56 pm to
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You don't have to troll the board with every post, you know.

What part of that is a troll? The only time I've heard anyone mention the guy was during a stand-up comedy act.

Still not sure what he has to do with this.
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 9:08 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:22 am to
The poster was referring to reprobates doing well in elections, and I brought up a D.C. mayor who was filmed smoking crack with a prostitute BEFORE he was last elected...picture getting any clearer yet?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:30 am to
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The goal is incrementalism towards big government.



If someone is trying to paint Maddox as a socialist in favor of big government, I'll point out he's actually reduced the size of Tuscaloosa's administration(relative to revenue growth), while improving many of the services. He's a big proponent of efficient government, which is a much better goal than "big" or "small" government.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:42 am to
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After Jones came out and pissed off all the moderate Republicans by voting straight Democrat after saying he wouldn’t;



Jones' vote has aligned with Trump on 56.3% of ballots. That is the 2nd highest of all democrat senators


LINK
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 8:43 am
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:52 am to
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we live in a state where people vote republican regardless of how good or bad the candidate is



Someone made a joke the other day that Jesus would lose an Alabama election if he ran as a democrat

Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
12245 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:10 am to
The southern baptists would be so torn
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:12 am to
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picture getting any clearer yet?


Not really. Your post made it sound like either it was ok because DC did it, it was ok because Democrats did it, or at least in your opinion worst people have been elected (albeit in another region). So yeah, I'm still not sure what he has to do with elections in Alabama.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 9:35 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:16 am to
It's just more stupid whataboutism that serves no purpose other than to justify that actions of horrible people either side supports.
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