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re: Maybe it wasn’t all Tommy Rees
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:36 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:36 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Am I hallucinating or didn't Milroe begin his career as a RB?
That was Blake Sims, and he was far far better than Milroe.
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:40 pm to PowHound
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Am I hallucinating or didn't Milroe begin his career as a RB?
Not far off. He started off as an option QB who either handed it off or kept it every single play. Why? Because whenever he'd pass the ball it was a likely INT.
Consider how far Milroe has come since his first start against Texas A&M. He used to be an atrocious QB. Now he's somewhat serviceable, but this is his ceiling. We've seen zero improvement since last year.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:41 pm to BasedCrimson
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He started off as an option QB who either handed it off or kept it every single play. Why?
It was actually because when he played at the beginning of his career we were obliterating people and Saban wanted the clock run out. It’s not because he was an option QB.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:44 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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Have you been buying ayahuasca from Aaron Rodgers?
Perhaps.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:45 pm to PowHound
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That was Blake Sims
I am old. This is perhaps of whom I was thinking. My apologies to the board.
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 9/8/24 at 2:05 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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I agree somewhat with this. Saban isn't out of gas. He's at GameDay. Then back in T-town for the games. He's down on the field before halftime.
Something happened in that locker room last year that made Saban say, "frick this" about coaching. I know. He's rich and 72 and Miss Terry said this and that, and watching ducks shite on the lawn at the lake, blah blah blah.
The whole point of NIL, the transfer portal and a 12 team playoff was to derail Saban's dominance and no one can change my mind.
I honestly expect Saban to take another job in the next few years. It's obvious he had maybe 7 or 8 years left in the tank and I feel he misses it.
It will most likely be a smaller program where there's less bullshite but I feel like he called it quits a little too early and will make one last run at it. I don't blame him though. Players throwing their helmets, players demanding more money, coaches refusing to work for him due to his age, I get why he suddenly said frick it.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 6:30 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
Saban hated the NFL because of the high paid spoiled brat players and GM power.
NIL and transfer portal pushed him out. He said so in one of the interviews right after he retired. He said he was trying to talk to players about off season plans etc... and all they wanted to talk about was how much NIL was on the table for this season.
NIL and transfer portal pushed him out. He said so in one of the interviews right after he retired. He said he was trying to talk to players about off season plans etc... and all they wanted to talk about was how much NIL was on the table for this season.
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 9/10/24 at 4:49 am to dalefla
There is a lot of animosity concerning Milroe. I will just say I cringe when I watch him play. About NIL's and how it has affected college sports, Coach Saban and others chased the money pretty hard. Coach Bryant becoming one of the richest people in the state because he build relationships. His starting salary in 1958 was the same as Dr. Rose about $15 or $16 thousand a year. He did want his own T V show. I think paying the coaches huge salaries contributed to creating NIL's. It is a new and totally difference paradigm. Big time amateur sports is history.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 3:23 pm to stewieie
We'll have a better read on Milroe after Saturday. Yes, some old traits popped up against USF, but when the OL play is that bad, bad habits tend to resurface. He showed nice awareness on the TD pass to Law.
Bottom line, Milroe was hardly the only player making mistakes. EVERYONE needs to improve.
Playcalling needs to improve as well.
Bottom line, Milroe was hardly the only player making mistakes. EVERYONE needs to improve.
Playcalling needs to improve as well.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 3:50 pm to jthomas666
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Playcalling needs to improve as well
I actually don’t think it was as bad as most believe. After watching the Aaron Murray film break down of the game, we seemed to have an execution problem. Receivers running poor routes/breaking off at the wrong times/not always creating separation, the OL was physically whipped way too often and there appears to be a lack of communication and understanding of assignments between Milroe and the OL. The play calling wasn’t stellar, but there were a number of instances where guys were open and Milroe didn’t pull the trigger, threw it too late, or was running for his life.
They really need to figure out how to identify where pressure is going to come from and communicating the protections. This continues to be an issue carrying over from last year. I was hoping Milroe would be much improved in having command of the offense, but we still seem lost or out of sync way too often.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:25 pm to dalefla
This is the espn piece where Saban identifies some of the issues the contributed to his decision to retire:
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"I want to be clear that wasn't the reason, but some of those events certainly contributed," Saban said of his decision to retire. "I was really disappointed in the way that the players acted after the game. You gotta win with class. You gotta lose with class. We had our opportunities to win the game and we didn't do it, and then showing your arse and being frustrated and throwing helmets and doing that stuff ... that's not who we are and what we've promoted in our program."
Once back in Tuscaloosa, as Saban began meeting with players, it became even more apparent to him that his message wasn't resonating like it once did.
"I thought we could have a hell of a team next year, and then maybe 70 or 80 percent of the players you talk to, all they want to know is two things: What assurances do I have that I'm going to play because they're thinking about transferring, and how much are you going to pay me?" Saban recounted. "Our program here was always built on how much value can we create for your future and your personal development, academic success in graduating and developing an NFL career on the field.
"So I'm saying to myself, 'Maybe this doesn't work anymore, that the goals and aspirations are just different and that it's all about how much money can I make as a college player?' I'm not saying that's bad. I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm just saying that's never been what we were all about, and it's not why we had success through the years."
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"I want to be clear that wasn't the reason, but some of those events certainly contributed," Saban said of his decision to retire. "I was really disappointed in the way that the players acted after the game. You gotta win with class. You gotta lose with class. We had our opportunities to win the game and we didn't do it, and then showing your arse and being frustrated and throwing helmets and doing that stuff ... that's not who we are and what we've promoted in our program."
Once back in Tuscaloosa, as Saban began meeting with players, it became even more apparent to him that his message wasn't resonating like it once did.
"I thought we could have a hell of a team next year, and then maybe 70 or 80 percent of the players you talk to, all they want to know is two things: What assurances do I have that I'm going to play because they're thinking about transferring, and how much are you going to pay me?" Saban recounted. "Our program here was always built on how much value can we create for your future and your personal development, academic success in graduating and developing an NFL career on the field.
"So I'm saying to myself, 'Maybe this doesn't work anymore, that the goals and aspirations are just different and that it's all about how much money can I make as a college player?' I'm not saying that's bad. I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm just saying that's never been what we were all about, and it's not why we had success through the years."
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:36 pm to RollTideNL
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want to be clear that wasn't the reason, but some of those events certainly contributed," Saban said of his decision to retire. "I was really disappointed in the way that the players acted after the game. You gotta win with class. You gotta lose with class. We had our opportunities to win the game and we didn't do it, and then showing your arse and being frustrated and throwing helmets and doing that stuff ... that's not who we are and what we've promoted in our program."
Once back in Tuscaloosa, as Saban began meeting with players, it became even more apparent to him that his message wasn't resonating like it once did.
"I thought we could have a hell of a team next year, and then maybe 70 or 80 percent of the players you talk to, all they want to know is two things: What assurances do I have that I'm going to play because they're thinking about transferring, and how much are you going to pay me?" Saban recounted. "Our program here was always built on how much value can we create for your future and your personal development, academic success in graduating and developing an NFL career on the field.
"So I'm saying to myself, 'Maybe this doesn't work anymore, that the goals and aspirations are just different and that it's all about how much money can I make as a college player?' I'm not saying that's bad. I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm just saying that's never been what we were all about, and it's not why we had success through the years."
It still makes me sad to read that. Coach had another NC or two left in him, if the stuff surrounding the game hadn't changed so much. We truly witnessed greatness.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:23 pm to RollTideNL
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"We had our opportunities to win the game and we didn't do it, and then showing your arse and being frustrated and throwing helmets and doing that stuff ... that's not who we are and what we've promoted in our program."
Interesting to note that Jalen Milroe was the most prominent player to spike his helmet after the loss.
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:11 pm to Pharmdbamafan
Agree 110% Bama has a problem within the locker room and NIL and individuals are adding to it every year.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:15 pm to bamatide07
Absolutely
Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:20 pm to Bama72
Posted on 9/13/24 at 4:02 am to PowHound
I love Blake Sims to death but he was not better than milroe im sorry. His passing was decent I'll put milroe a notch better but running wise it's not even close and Blake has wheels on him.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 6:39 am to Teague
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It still makes me sad to read that. Coach had another NC or two left in him
He couldn't ever get the right coordinators.
Had he, he would have won four straight
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:27 am to qman91
Worst take of them all
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:03 am to Tider13
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Then your a dumbass
Why does this happen so often?
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