stewieie
| Favorite team: | Alabama |
| Location: | Florida |
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| Occupation: | retired |
| Number of Posts: | 303 |
| Registered on: | 2/16/2020 |
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I agree it started when they started paying coaches the obscene salaries. Coaches made money for years under the table and building relationships, but salaries help trigger this explosion. There was a time when a few parents actually paid the head coach at Alabama to play their kid.
The state of college football has gotten fans juices flowing. You are right Saban first year's paid was slightly less than Stoop's. Regardless of details it was a big contract. Alabama has been a major force in shaping college football. There are a few other schools that contributed to a similar fashion. It is true Alabama has suffered some inequities from the NCAA but have benefited for some periods of favorable treatment. The information presented below may not be total correct but should let you know I am not a troll. I am somewhat of a realist, and it is based on my memory of what I thought I knew at the time. When Coach Bryant came to Alabama, he did not want to be paid more than the school's president (about $15,000 per year). He also insisted on being the Athletic Director and own and operate his own T. V. show. Coach Bryant made more money than any other coach in college football for many years. His income was generated by building relationships with the people in Alabama. I read one time Coach Bryant reflected in his later years that he chased the money too hard. Jackie Sherrill was reported to be the highest paid coach when he signed with Texas A&M, but that was not the case. I do not care how much money people make, including players, if the market can bear it. You obviously have a good memory and knowledge about Alabama football. I think we both want to see a healthy future for college football and Alabama's continued success.
re: Sorsby granted injunction and is eligible after gambling on his own team
Posted by stewieie on 6/10/26 at 3:21 pm to Panthers4life
People are expressing legitimate concerns on the right thing to do going forward. There has always been an arms race to win at college sports. Alabama has a history of competing at football at the highest level. Saban was paid $1.5 million a year more than Stoops at Oklahoma when he was hired. It was worth every penny. Alabama seems to be effectively navigating the new system such as it is. There will be changes to what is happening at some point.
re: Sorsby granted injunction and is eligible after gambling on his own team
Posted by stewieie on 6/10/26 at 5:27 am to Robot Santa
I thought he bet on his own team. If he bet against them this is another character flaw. He does need help period. Dealing with these type issues is going to be different under the new college sports paradigm. Unfortunately, lawsuits settle many issues, and it may be pointed in that direction. When money is involved, the dynamics change.
re: Sorsby granted injunction and is eligible after gambling on his own team
Posted by stewieie on 6/9/26 at 8:23 am to GoodTalkRuss
The Bediako and Sorsby cases are entirely different and parallels cannot be drawn. The judge's decision is not entirely unreasonable. In order to play he has to be under a tight regiment of treatment. Addiction qualifies as disabled and has protection under federal law, especially concerning people's livelihood, if they are in treatment. His ability to make a living is impacted as well as his future wellbeing. Since college football has become an employer/employee relationship these legal requirements and principles should apply. In this case he should be given a second chance to redeem himself. In the scheme of life this is definitionally now the most grievous decision ever made.
The theory that the future is bright because people are getting smarter is proven with all Alabama football players making all A's and B's in high school.
Saban inadvertently put pressure on kickers. Other coaches do this. George Allen comes to mind.
re: Getting stoked for football season. The energy in the building seems calmly excited.
Posted by stewieie on 5/9/26 at 6:10 pm to Amarillo Tide
I left the state after I graduated, so I may not be as familiar as others, but I did keep up to an extent. I don't know about your reference to Patrick. I remember he was from Jasper and a friend of mine said he was going to be the next tailback at USC. Bryant had a unique charismatic personality. If you wanted to talk to him during the football season all you had to do was show up at the Bright Star Cafe in Bessemer about five miles from where I grew up on early Sunday evenings. He always stopped for dinner on his way back from doing his show in Birmingham. Jimmy and Nicky took good care of him. I don't know about now, but then it may have been the best restaurant in the state.
Correct, that may account for my goofy thinking.
re: Getting stoked for football season. The energy in the building seems calmly excited.
Posted by stewieie on 5/9/26 at 11:30 am to Amarillo Tide
Not sure how familiar you are with Bryant. My freshman year at Alabama was 1958 the year Bryant showed up. I was on my way to Atlanta to attend the Alabama vs Georgia Tech game and Daddy said Dodd and Bryant will have to play because both teams have so many injuries, they won't have eleven guys to start. Is that considered whining?
re: Getting stoked for football season. The energy in the building seems calmly excited.
Posted by stewieie on 5/9/26 at 4:16 am to Diego Ricardo
DeBoer complimenting the team scares me. He should concentrate on improvement not how good they looked. Any time Bryant complimented the team, which was rare, they were bad and showed it on the field. The more he whined the better they were. Saban was similar but not as profound as Bryant.
Too early to say for sure, but I think school is still out on DeBoer. The way they played in several games got me wondering. No energy or not physical enough makes me wonder about how tough his teams will ever be. I went to the Citrus bowl when Michigan won. Michigan was a bad team that wanted the game more than Alabama. Pregame warmups told me they were not focused. No life on Alabama side and enthusiasm by the Michigan squad. I don't even want to think about some of the other bad performances. I think extending his contract was a dumb move. Doing this sent the message you are very pleased with him. How can you be at this point considering the really awful loses he has incurred?
re: Jameson Williams suing the Big Ten and SEC
Posted by stewieie on 5/5/26 at 7:42 am to Robot Santa
It is a strange world today. This guy should be sending money to the former players who built the game. Why don't former pro golfers demand a percentage of each PGA purse? Great athletes in the past built the sports with little or no compensation. You would think the present athletes would appreciate that and move on. Greed is bad. Blow it up and start over.
I don't understand the extension. They should have waited and see what happens in the next two years. If DeBoer wanted to go before that so, be it. The five or six years post Saban were not going to be that great away. His teams just have not been that good against good teams and lose bad to some mediocre teams.
This may not be on topic, but I have never posted much, and I am reading a lot less. College football is not the same for me. I think NIL and what has happened as a result of it is the biggest thing for me. My freshman year at Alabama was 1958 so a lot of water under the bridge since then. The game seems to be as popular as ever to the younger generations. I think it would be best not to regulate NIL, and it would probably collapse under its own weight. They would kill the goose that laid the golden egg. This would return the game back to its root somewhat. I think I am right here when the first regulation of football came about because people were getting killed playing the game. You can bet your bottom dollar that it will be regulated in some manner.
You are right. I do like Oats. The world has passed me by in some ways. I am not a basketball fan like I once was. Not sure why. I think raising the goal a foot for college and two feet for pros and making the court bigger would make the game more interesting to watch. Similar to the difference to shooting pool on a bar table vs a regulation table. I am a little goofy, but I also think they should have a different set of golf rules for amateurs and pros to make the game more fun for us amateurs. Also, make the cup bigger for amateurs.
re: Give Oats a lifetime extension
Posted by stewieie on 3/23/26 at 2:39 pm to Crimsontide1713
Surprised everybody is so hyped after beating Texas Tech. Are they that good? The only team that beat a good team to make the Sweet Sixteen is Iowa. I am pretty sure Alabama is a distance second to Kentucky in SEC wins. Close with Tennessee. I think Arkansas has won more games but not in the SEC. Am I right here? I go back far enough watching the Rocket Eight beat Kentucky 101 to I think 77. It was fun watching Rupp implode. It was a one-point game at the half. Johnny Dee was a good coach and wanted a new field house to stay. They could not go to the NCAA tournament because they played as freshman. Probably just as well since San Fransico won with Bill Russell and company.
His teams do well in the NCAA tournament. I wonder if their style of play confuses teams that don't see that style as much? TT was a 1 1/2 point favorite. If they beat Michigan or even hang close ditto for an excellent show. How can Florida lose to Iowa?
DeBoer and Oats are both considered player's coaches. How does a coach get players respect these days? Being a player's coach will only take you so far. It is a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. Bryant's method of fear does not work anymore. Most good coaches in the past only had about ten great years. Going forward great years are only going to be four or five. On the drugs situation, illegal drugs are not the answer to the problem.
Tua is a great pure passer, but the other things that make a great quarterback are lacking.
re: Dan Orlovsky thinks Ty was more impressive than Mendoza
Posted by stewieie on 3/5/26 at 7:30 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
Quaterback play is not going to be DeBoer's problem in the future. He needs to address all the other aspects. The best passer I ever saw was Joe Namath and Madden said the same thing. He was definitely a head of his time. The Jets had few if any winning seasons when he was their quarterback except for the year they won the Super Bowl. Good teams make good quarterbacks. The two quarterbacks that benefitted the most from the teams they played on were Bart Starr and Joe Montana. Their play fit the rhythm of the team. Both of them were capable of making big plays when they were needed, which was not that often.
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