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Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:09 am to CAbamafan
Why are you so afraid of folks transferring? Get a grip, bro. You seem much more dissatisfied than any of these players.
Posted on 6/23/18 at 7:40 am to Crimson Wraith
Tyrant Lynch was going to be special UNTIL he had that 1st knee injury. He returned to be a solid FB.
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:33 am to CAbamafan
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why NFL scouts aren't chomping at the bit,
You're incorrect here, a lot of scouts are high on Harris. He doesn't get any publicity about it from websites and media because he isn't a well known name nationally. But even as deep as RB was in this year's draft, Harris could have been a first round pick. Maybe to Seattle when they picked Penny, and likely to the Pats over Michel.
In the 2019 draft, he could be the first RB taken. We just have to see what happens.
His running style is built for the modern NFL, it's all about vision, balance, cutting, and burst. His blocking needs to improve a bit, but if he has a good year and no injuries(please), I know he can be the first RB taken in 2019.
Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:23 pm to VaBamaMan
Word for word from Phil Steele's CFB Preview:
"Damien Harris is a rare rare talent of burst, acceleration, and speed."
"Damien Harris is a rare rare talent of burst, acceleration, and speed."
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:29 am to prevatt33
Back to OP (Phil Steele mag):
LSU's entire RB corp has zero career TDs as a group. First time since 1974.
Gus Malzhan is 1-4 in bowl games as au's HC.
Phil has Bama's WR corp as the 6th best in the SEC. Actually, Phil has Bama as #1 is the SEC in every category (QB, RB, OL, DL, LB, DB, CH) except 2: WR (6th) and Special Teams (7th).
LSU's entire RB corp has zero career TDs as a group. First time since 1974.
Gus Malzhan is 1-4 in bowl games as au's HC.
Phil has Bama's WR corp as the 6th best in the SEC. Actually, Phil has Bama as #1 is the SEC in every category (QB, RB, OL, DL, LB, DB, CH) except 2: WR (6th) and Special Teams (7th).
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 1:34 am
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:54 am to prevatt33
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Phil has Bama's WR corp as the 6th best in the SEC. Actually, Phil has Bama as #1 is the SEC in every category (QB, RB, OL, DL, LB, DB, CH) except 2: WR (6th) and Special Teams (7th).
My thoughts:
- WR ranking is too low.
- QB ranking is too high, although I hope it's proved to be accurate by the end of the season.
- DB ranking is too high, considering there's very little experience as a whole with this group.
- Special teams ranking is too high -- again, no proven experience at the skill positions.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:40 am to CAbamafan
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*Derrick Henry was kept on the bench behind lesser, sometimes hampered backs, until he wasn't...
He didn't get adequate touches until his Junior year. We sort of wasted his talent for 2 years.
He had a hard time getting on the field originally because he didn't know how to pass protect...if you can't block/pass protect, you won't be a starting RB at Bama. Even so, he had TJ Yeldon in front of him, the first player in Bama history to rush for 1,000+ yards in both his freshman and sophomore seasons...so you think Saban should've sat Yeldon and given the ball to Henry 30+ times a game in 2014? As it was, they pretty much split carries that season any way...
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To say nothing of Alvin Kamara. Saban does this a lot, because he refuses to replace starters with younger guys.
Kamara was only with Bama for like 6 months...he tore his meniscus before the season and had behavioral problems as well; he was redshirted and decided to transfer, so when was Saban supposed to have played him? And had he stayed or if they pulled his redshirt, who were you gonna sit to give Kamara playing time? Henry? Yeldon? Drake? While he did well at Tennessee, Kamara also had a hard time breaking into the starting lineup there behind Kelly and Hurd...
Saban's put something like 8 RBs into the NFL...I think he must be doing something right in that regard...
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 10:42 am
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:46 am to OldPete
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Kamara was only with Bama for like 6 months...he tore his meniscus before the season and had behavioral problems as well; he was redshirted and decided to transfer, so when was Saban supposed to have played him? And had he stayed or if they pulled his redshirt, who were you gonna sit to give Kamara playing time? Henry? Yeldon? Drake? While he did well at Tennessee, Kamara also had a hard time breaking into the starting lineup there behind Kelly and Hurd...
Saban's put something like 8 RBs into the NFL...I think he must be doing something right in that regard...
Kamara seems to regret his behavior at Bama. Kamara was behind guys who are producing in the NFL at Bama. But, it was pure coaching ineptitude that kept Kamara from getting more playing time at Tennessee.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:58 am to Sauron
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- WR ranking is too low.
- QB ranking is too high, although I hope it's proved to be accurate by the end of the season.
- DB ranking is too high, considering there's very little experience as a whole with this group.
- Special teams ranking is too high -- again, no proven experience at the skill positions.
JUst a little Devil's Advocate here:
1 - There really are several really, really good WR corps in the SEC, and we don't return a ton of total catches at the position.
2 - Phil's ranking the position group, not the starter. Who's behind Stidham? We've got at least 2 high-level starters.
3 - So, so much talent, and Phil credits Saban's history of always having well-coached units and putting most of his guys in the league. And of the starting 5 in Nickle, most have played enough to know what you're getting. Who's DB corp should be better?
4 - Special Teams is more than just an eval of FG kicking, and our guys are high level recruits. Other teams have unproven units without high level recruits.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:30 pm to prevatt33
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No RB in Tide history has a better career ypc with 250 plus carries than Damien Harris (6.7ypc).
Knowing Alabama football and the likely hype that will surround Harris...
I expect some 4th string RB 3* and people forgot existed or someone who people expected to play a diff pos to end up rushing for 2000+ yards
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:43 pm to GenesChin
People forget that Damien was a 5 star, number one ranked RB coming out of high school. He was expected to be elite and he has delivered.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:33 pm to Commander Data
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People forget that Damien was a 5 star, number one ranked RB coming out of high school. He was expected to be elite and he has delivered.
It's weird. People talk about him like he was a 3* recruit who has averaged 3.5 ypc for his career. I guess it's the infatuation with the tall guys like Henry, Bo, and Najee. But, he's been great from day 1. If he got THREE HUNDRED AND NINETY-FIVE frickING CARRIES last year, like Henry did in 2015, he would have run for 3000 yards, conservatively - Like even if he averaged almost a yard less per carry than he actually did. The most carries Damien has ever gotten was 145, which is about 37% of the carries that Henry got in 2015.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:10 pm to prevatt33
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Louisville's starting QB is named Puma Pass.
It's Jawon Pass. We recruited him when he was coming out of high school.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:55 pm to Commander Data
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People forget that Damien was a 5 star, number one ranked RB coming out of high school. He was expected to be elite and he has delivered.
I meant more that the best RB seasons for Bama always seem to be from unexpected places
Not that the 5* guys don't perform, but seems like the 2/3rd rated guys end up stealing the show
Posted on 6/26/18 at 8:04 am to GenesChin
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I meant more that the best RB seasons for Bama always seem to be from unexpected places
Has that ever really happened? Mark Ingram in 08 maybe, but I think Coffee had the better season that year. I do remember everyone excited about Upchurch(I think?) that pre-season, and Ingram having a big game against Clemson in the opener.
And I guess maybe last year, though Harris's performance didn't really surprise me. People certainly expected more out of Scarborough after the way he finished the 16 season.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 9:08 am to The Spleen
Eh, I just mean more that guys in preseason you'd expect to have monster seasons frequently don't while a 2/3rd option blows up
2010- Ingram not SR higher recruit Upchurch
2014- Yeldon falls off while "He's a LB" Henry flashes
2015- Harris/Scarborough are both 5* expected to split and Henry just dominate ball share
2016/17- BoScar in general never becomes the hammer people expected
2010- Ingram not SR higher recruit Upchurch
2014- Yeldon falls off while "He's a LB" Henry flashes
2015- Harris/Scarborough are both 5* expected to split and Henry just dominate ball share
2016/17- BoScar in general never becomes the hammer people expected
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