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Interesting stuff from the 2018 CFB Preview from Phil Steele

Posted on 6/21/18 at 1:25 pm
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/21/18 at 1:25 pm
No RB in Tide history has a better career ypc with 250 plus carries than Damien Harris (6.7ypc).

I just got my copy and will throw some interesting stuff here when I come across it.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12615 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 1:56 pm to
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No RB in Tide history has a better career ypc with 250 plus carries than Damien Harris (6.7ypc).


At least one man doesn't believe you

Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 1:59 pm to
I usually buy Lindy's, Athlons and Phil Steele magazines. Steele' sis the best by far. It isn't as flashy and filled with all the extra crap, but it gives you great stats. I need to find time to get by the book store and load up.
Posted by CAbamafan
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:03 pm to
Our backfield is absolutely ridiculous. Harris, Harris, and Robinson smh

I still think there's something misleading about Damien Harris though. He's never had that "wow" factor. In the Georgia game, our rushing attack was a bit of a dud until Najee came in and exploded. No question Najee was the better back late in the season. Then you saw Brian Robinson in the spring game, with his size and speed. It's hard to pass over either guy for the smaller, less powerful Damien Harris with no breakaway speed
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:06 pm to
If Jacobs can stay healthy, he is a hell of a weapon.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12615 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:11 pm to
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It's hard to pass over either guy for the smaller, less powerful Damien Harris with no breakaway speed


People said this about Bo overtaking Damien too, and all Harris did was average significantly more per touch than every other halfback on the team. The stats don't lie imo. Damien is clearly the best back on the team. His vision and cutting ability is superb.

For the record, I'm a halfback by committee guy, and let the hot one carry the load in the fourth.
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:11 pm to
Based off a quick perusal of the auburn page, the Washington page, and Phil's Power Rankings - if the betting line was a true football handicap, the auburn-Wash spread would have Washington favored, not auburn.

Neutral site with the underdog as likely (or a tic more likely) to win the game outright? That's as good of a bet as you'll find week 1, imo.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21668 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:12 pm to
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I still think there's something misleading about Damien Harris though. He's never had that "wow" factor.


Like I've been saying for two years, I'll take his "misleading" 6.7 ypc all day over the 5.2 ypc with "wow" factor that another RB gives us. I like all of our RBs, and am fine with any of them carrying the load, but Damien has been criminally underrated by our fans his whole career.
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:17 pm to
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Damien Harris with no breakaway speed


I believed Harris showed this rep to be completely false last year. Numerous commentators even mentioned it during games, how he slimmed down from the year before to get that extra gear.

Harris had numerous long runs last year where he took it to the house.

Don't get me wrong, I love all our backs and am particularly excited about Robinson, but saying Harris has "no breakaway speed" is demonstrably false.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:19 pm to
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Damien is clearly the best back on the team.


Regarding toting the rock, perhaps. But the reason Bo was on the field so much was due largely to the fact that he was our best pass blocking RB by a mile.

Harris still needs to step up his game in that regard. Tua took a big sack vs GA cause Harris whiffed on his man.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60245 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:21 pm to
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I still think there's something misleading about Damien Harris though.


That's a great thing though. It's so demoralizing when it feels/looks like you stopped someone for nothing/minimal gain. Then you look and it's 2nd and 4. You don't know how in the world he got that, but he did.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:23 pm to
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Damien has been criminally underrated by our fans his whole career.


It's because of the size of Henry and Scarborough that caused this, imo. Way too many fans think that Harris is small, but he's nearly identical in size to Mark Ingram.

6'3 230lb RBs are cool and all, but size isn't all there is to it. If we took a commitment from Mark Ingram today, half the fanbase would be questioning if Saban is slipping. A 5'10 205 lb 3star/4star? The sky is falling!
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:30 pm to
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6'3 230lb RBs are cool and all, but size isn't all there is to it. If we took a commitment from Mark Ingram today, half the fanbase would be questioning if Saban is slipping. A 5'10 205 lb 3star/4star? The sky is falling!

That's the truth!! Ingram wasn't flashy either, but he had good vision and made good decisions. Harris has better vision, in my opinion, and just as good about decisions.

You don't see Ingram or Harris dance around in the backfield or reverse field.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:30 pm to
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Damien Harris with no breakaway speed


Damien Harris 2017 Highlights

You don't even need to fast forward, homes. First play is a 75 yard run vs Arky, and they can't catch him.

Drops mic.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60245 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:53 pm to
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You don't even need to fast forward, homes. First play is a 75 yard run vs Arky, and they can't catch him.



The 2nd play is exactly what I was talking about earlier. Looks like nothing, stopped in the backfield, annnnnd it's a 6 yard gain-he fell 2 yards into the endzone.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14470 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:55 pm to
D Harris is the best running back on this team. Combination of speed, vision, and ability to make people miss. I hope he has a great year!
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60245 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 3:10 pm to
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A 5'10 205 lb 3star/4star? The sky is falling!



This happened last year, 2 of them actually.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 3:18 pm to
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This happened last year, 2 of them actually.


No, it didn't. I described Mark Ingram as a "3star/4star" because he was a 3star on every site but one.

Jerome Ford is a unanimous 4 star and Slade Bolden is a slot receiver.
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 3:18 pm
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60245 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 4:15 pm to
Fair enough
Posted by CAbamafan
Member since Dec 2017
1167 posts
Posted on 6/21/18 at 7:36 pm to
If Damien Harris is so insanely good, can anyone explain why he gets no attention, why nobodys really hyped on him, why NFL scouts aren't chomping at the bit, he gets no Heisman buzz, etc

Surely if he's so incredible, there's really not a better team for a HB to be on, yet we all know he's not about to burst on the scene as a Senior. Najee will be getting most of the love this season.

So please, what possible explanation is there other than him just not being overwhelmingly impressive?
He's like an 8/10, and we're used to the #1 guy being a 9 or 10 out of 10
We're used to our #1 back being in the Heisman discussion, and/or at least a 1st round pick

PLEASE don't compare him to Mark Ingram. Mark ran with a fire and intensity I've never seen from any of our backs aside from possibly Kenyan Drake and Eddie Lacy. Mark is a Pro Bowler, Heisman winner, and first round pick. Damien will never be any of those things
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 7:43 pm
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