re: "I will be taking a knee every game in high school this season." - Kayvon Thibodeaux

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Yes that is correct but percentage wise black people are killed by the police at a higher rate. White people make up 61% of the population and black people make up 12%. Statistically white people should be killed by the police at 5 to 6 times the rate of black people in America not twice the rate.

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That's true but when Black men are accounting for roughly half of all homicides in the U.S. you will have more interactions with the cops and those interactions are more likely to be tense situations where cops overreact. Just saying...

Over reacting shouldn't cause in a death if the person is unarmed.

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Over reacting shouldn't cause in a death if the person is unarmed.

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True. But, it's funny how studious, unarmed Black men aren't getting shot by the cops. I refuse to take up for the fools and never-do-wells who happen to share my race.

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That's true but when Black men are accounting for roughly half of all homicides in the U.S. you will have more interactions with the cops and those interactions are more likely to be tense situations where cops overreact.

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Which is all a symptom of systemic forces keeping as many black people in poverty as possible.

The problem with people who typically think like you is that they ignore the reality of those forces which then implies that the communuties are culturally inferior, which is obviously absurd and clearly racist.


You can dismiss rates of violenece towards minorities as a product of higher crime rates, but only if you first ackowledge that that our system is flawed and the freedoms that people describe as American don't necessarily extend to poeple of color.


The avoidence of this reality is why I think so many people are up in arms of the kneelers and their protest.

Crap I got a ton of catching up to do.

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That's true but when Black men are accounting for roughly half of all homicides in the U.S. you will have more interactions with the cops and those interactions are more likely to be tense situations where cops overreact. Just saying...

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Yes black people account for 52.5% of homicides, white people account for 45% of homicides LINK A cop should feel just as tense with a white assailant as with a black assailant, it is basically a 50/50 proposition.

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Brother, I'm sorry but the link you've provided says roughly 61% of Black kids live in two parent homes. That's still high. Frankly, I believe the number is much higher. And, from my experience as a high school teacher, many of these Black kids who do live in two parent homes have problematic parents. Do you know how many parent teacher conferences I've sat in with these fathers who are alcoholics, drug addicts, drug dealers, and their kids are struggling? A lot. And, that's not White folks' problem.

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Dude you are stereotyping all black communities based on your experience with one. This is the same thing I was saying about insuinating all black communities are violent based on some black communities in Chicago. There are strong and successful black communities and families throughout the country that do not fit your experience. I also can not argue against statistics you create. If you feel your statistics are more accurate more power to you. I have no idea why you said that's not white folks problem. It is a societal problem which we are all apart of.

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the only thing keeping black people down are the choices black people make and the biases they teach their children. And if anybody manages to make it out by making good life choices, they are deemed a sell out/oreo.

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There has not been a reference made to white people holding anyone down or blaming white people for anything throughout these post by me or anyone else that I remember. This is about reaching out to address issues in society that we can change. Equal pay for equal work, equitable housing, support for education and criminal justice reform, although they disproportionately impact many minority groups, impacts everyone and if we look to improve in these areas we would make society a better place.

Dear Lord please let the season hurry up and get here

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Which is all a symptom of systemic forces keeping as many black people in poverty as possible. The problem with people who typically think like you is that they ignore the reality of those forces which then implies that the communuties are culturally inferior, which is obviously absurd and clearly racist. You can dismiss rates of violenece towards minorities as a product of higher crime rates, but only if you first ackowledge that that our system is flawed and the freedoms that people describe as American don't necessarily extend to poeple of color. The avoidence of this reality is why I think so many people are up in arms of the kneelers and their protest.

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If systematic racism was a reality then surely newly emancipated Blacks after the abolition of slavery would've slayed one another. Rather, newly emancipated Blacks had higher marriage rates and more stable communities than Black Americans today. In fact, up to the 1960s the Black marriage rate was higher than that of White Americans. But, after the 1960s, Black America has been nose diving towards nothing and blaming others for our shortcomings. It's harsh but a culture that doesn't promote entrepreneurship, academic achievement, morality, marriage and strong families is a culture that will regress. And, unfortunately, that's the culture of some (not all) Black Americans.

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the only thing keeping black people down are the choices black people make and the biases they teach their children.

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So a kid growing up in Fairfield has the same opprotunities and resources to be successful in life as a kid growing up in Mountain Brook?

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But, after the 1960s, Black America has been nose diving towards nothing and blaming others for our shortcomings.

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Looking at ways to address real issues in society is not blaming others for our shortcomings. I have not blamed anyone at any point for anything throughout this conversation. If I call my landlord to fix my toilet it doesn't mean I am blaming them for it being broken.

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It's harsh but a culture that doesn't promote entrepreneurship, academic achievement, morality, marriage and strong families is a culture that will regress.

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I just don't know why you see the majority of black society this way. Maybe you don't. I am not religious but the basis of everything I have experienced growing up in the black community has been through the church focusing on family, marriage and morality. That is most black communities I have experienced throughout the country. I'm sure you have seen the inequities in education resources in lower income communities regardless of race. I see it on the higher education side. I definitely agree we need more black entrepreneurship but that also includes providing the opportunity to get loans which can be difficult as a minority business owner LINK.

I don't understand this idea of asking to improve systems being equated to blaming someone else or not being accountable for yourself.