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re: "I will be taking a knee every game in high school this season." - Kayvon Thibodeaux

Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by Tide or Die87
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:23 pm to
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Well for starters: interactions with the justice system, de facto segregation and educational opportunities.



Really don't know how this got downvoted.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:23 pm to
I’m basically parroting what Fells is saying but housing, education and interactions with the criminal justice system where I would start as well.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:26 pm to
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interactions with the criminal justice system where I would start as well.


Not to get sidetracked here, but white people are killed by police twice as often as black people:

LINK
Posted by BamaBo7
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:28 pm to
I was going to let this thread go but the double talk is all too common. I’m serious as a black man.. the whole police thing really goes both ways. If we look at the numbers more whites are killed by police. If we look at the jail a lot of it goes back to our culture. When we have lil Wayne and build statues of Michael brown as our role models that’s a problem within. We don’t have enough solid role models and the ones we have get called Uncle Tom or trying to be white. Its our fault that 81% of our home’s lack a father figure. I almost went to a SWAC school (Jackson State) but the whole tour was us vs the whites. It was overwhelming and no better than the ones we call racist. If we really want to go forward and grow we have to do it from within. Not the left telling us to do it this way and the media pumping it Look at the black on black crime and murders just last week in chi town. Sorry but we are giving our kids excuses and not solutions. It’s building a weaker generation.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:29 pm to
That's not the point. Are they justified killings?
Posted by Dubosed
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:31 pm to
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There are plenty of people who protest our wars.

Athletes? I'd like to think so. That just don't get as many clicks as the police brutality stuff. It's a damn shame but true. Clicks and follows are all that matter now days.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:34 pm to
Yes that is correct but percentage wise black people are killed by the police at a higher rate. White people make up 61% of the population and black people make up 12%. Statistically white people should be killed by the police at 5 to 6 times the rate of black people in America not twice the rate.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:35 pm to
Why does it have to be athletes? Everybody picks their on causes. Michael J Foxx cares about Parkinson's because he has it. No one tells him hey you should focus on cancer that kills way more people.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:36 pm to
That is what the knee thing is about, but this kid (according to original article) said he wasnt kneeling about police brutality or racism, he basically said he was doing it because no one could change who he is by telling him not to kneel. Where ever he signs, he will receive advice on how things like this can hurt your image, hurt your marketability, etc, and its just better to stay out of politics when your paycheck to some extent is based on image, etc. See Michael Jordan.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12953 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:49 pm to
Give me an example of one of these role models that's being called an Uncle Tom. Also what does any of what you said about what's going on in Chicago have to do with unarmed people being killed by cops or the school systems in black communities not being as good as others?
Posted by Carlton
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Member since Feb 2016
11672 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:49 pm to
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I was going to let this thread go but the double talk is all too common. I’m serious as a black man.. the whole police thing really goes both ways. If we look at the numbers more whites are killed by police. If we look at the jail a lot of it goes back to our culture. When we have lil Wayne and build statues of Michael brown as our role models that’s a problem within. We don’t have enough solid role models and the ones we have get called Uncle Tom or trying to be white. Its our fault that 81% of our home’s lack a father figure. I almost went to a SWAC school (Jackson State) but the whole tour was us vs the whites. It was overwhelming and no better than the ones we call racist. If we really want to go forward and grow we have to do it from within. Not the left telling us to do it this way and the media pumping it Look at the black on black crime and murders just last week in chi town. Sorry but we are giving our kids excuses and not solutions. It’s building a weaker generation.


I just find this odd. I have found plenty of great black role models in my life. The idea that entertainers are the end all and be all of the black experience isn't true. I also had role models that weren't black. That 81% number is inaccurate. About 37% of African American live in homes with a single mother LINK. I think that too high but it definitely isn't 4/5 black children don't have father figures. What does jail have to do with our culture? I don't understand that at all. Chicago is not every city and this give the insinuation that to live in a predominately black neighborhood or city is to live somewhere inherently dangerous which is not true.

These are taking simple calls to improve certain areas of society and taking it to extremes for no apparent reason.

Looking at ways to make our flagship universities more representative of their over all populations, providing better resources for public schools in minority areas, making housing and wages equatiable, and improving our criminal justice system is not giving anyone excuses. It makes society better for everyone.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:56 pm to
That 81% statement is why black people are quick to call others Uncle Toms. As a black person how can you jump in an debate and throw a number out like that against black people lol.
Posted by saban n bear
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:56 pm to
Crybabies are protesting about everything now. I hope he doesn’t choose Alabama.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11659 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:59 pm to
He should sign-on with Cal.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12953 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:59 pm to
Crybabies? That's what's wrong with America. Instead of trying to understand where people are coming from people say shite like that.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12953 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:02 pm to
Is love to see him come to Bama and take a knee to see what Saban does. I don't see Saban stopping him.
Posted by Carlton
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11672 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:12 pm to
I'm pretty sure I have said nothing controversial. That is what is confusing sometimes.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12953 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:22 pm to
I agree. You went and got receipts and all lol.
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1565 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:24 pm to
Are you a white man (or whatever pronoun you go by) trying to identify as black man?
Or is it just white guilt maybe?
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Member since Jun 2016
10051 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:31 pm to
For the record I didn’t down vote you or anyone. I’m working out right now and I’ll respond to the other post later.
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