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re: Colin Cowherd on Clemson: Best Team / Best Program
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:57 pm to Cobrasize
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:57 pm to Cobrasize
quote:The narrative he has vomited over the years with Alabama is more than just a hot take.
Who cares. These guys have a "hot take" every day.
He was one step behind the first half of the dynasty. He’d do legitimately everything he could to downplay what Alabama was accomplishing.
Alabama eventually became SO goddamn dominant that he had to acknowledge it. The second he acknowledged it he started claiming the dynasty was over EVERY chance he got/gets.
I like Collin. But he truly can’t speak about Alabama without selling out and going against his morals.
He loves dominance/dynasties
He LOVES good coaching
He loves big brands
He loves consistency and teams with structure
Literally everything Alabama stands for right now is EXACTLY what he values in life. Something is up with the way he covers Alabama. I think it has to do with him hating the South and Alabama being a big symbol of the Deep South.
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:57 pm to RiverCityTider
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I think this year will tell the tale. Clemson had a great team last year. They have a great qb.
Bama has a great QB and lots of weapons coming back. If Clemson wants to truly displace Bama, all they have to do is win it again.
Maybe they will. I'll believe it when I see it. Don't recall Saban ever being dominated by anyone.
I think one of the most under-rated things about Saban is that he has managed to keep his teams winning regularly while having success.
It's much harder to manage than people seem to realize.
Ohio St for example - all that talent, supposedly Saban and Urban were "1A and 1B" for best coach ever, and then they turn around and do shite like getting blown out by Iowa.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:16 pm to 3down10
Personally, I think Saban will do anything it takes to make sure this so-called Clemson dynasty is aborted before it starts. He's probably worn out that game film and wakes up with cold sweats over how we were humilated.
We were not tough and we were not focused. And that shite is about to change.
We were not tough and we were not focused. And that shite is about to change.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:18 pm to ReauxlTide222
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They’re about to make Alabama’s recruiting under Saban look like nothing.
You're drivel from the MSB keeps on gradually seeping this way. Najee Harris is a bum and now this? Go watch Tombstone boy.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:47 pm to 3down10
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Clemson just went 15-0
With the weakest schedule of any national champion in probably the entire history of the sport.
Oh, come on.
Clemson absolutely beat the shite out of us in January. There's no reason to sugar coat it or be defensive about it. They absolutely were the best team in the country last year. Was that perhaps due in part to our injury situation? Sure. But our secondary absolutely sucked arse last year. As the other poster said, they were the best team and program for 2018. Can they sustain it? Who knows. But they have certainly proven to be our equal for the last four years. After this year, one team will be ahead of the other. Hopefully it's us.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 10:15 pm to ReauxlTide222
Chadd Scott an AU psycho was his producer at ESPN. I'm sure he perverted CC's view of Alabama. Scott was, maybe still is, legitimately sick when it comes to Alabama. As Jimmy Johnson, wikipedia founder, said, Alabama's success in football has driven AU insane. CC also has little regard for the South, but he doubles down on Alabama.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 10:24 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Oh, come on.
Clemson absolutely beat the shite out of us in January. There's no reason to sugar coat it or be defensive about it. They absolutely were the best team in the country last year. Was that perhaps due in part to our injury situation? Sure. But our secondary absolutely sucked arse last year. As the other poster said, they were the best team and program for 2018. Can they sustain it? Who knows. But they have certainly proven to be our equal for the last four years. After this year, one team will be ahead of the other. Hopefully it's us.
And they played a SoS that was basically worse than what teams like Boise St, Utah and TCU played back in the day. Their SoS was #100 out of 130 teams going into the playoffs.
Those teams often times would come up for a single game while playing nobody else the rest of the year.
Clemson played a team in their conference championship who was 7-5 at the time and ended up 7-7 on the year.
Their toughest game was Texas A&M, a common opponent with Alabama and like the 4th or 5th toughest opponent for Alabama? And they needed the refs to win that game.
I have no issue with them beating us last year, they did so fair and square. But calling them the best program is total bullshite, as is people who act like their 15-0 is the same as what ANY other P5 would have had to go through to finish 15-0. It wasn't.
And because we played tougher teams with good defenses like Miss St, they were able to find ways to exploit Tua and the Alabama offense. Meanwhile, Alabama was given basically nothing of substance in beating them because they didn't play anyone.
shite like that makes a difference and yet people want to act like it doesn't. I get it when people just want to troll Alabama fans, but I don't get it when Alabama fans go along with it.
Their schedule was so bad it almost justified UCF's arguments.
Just because they won a football game doesn't mean I have to up and accept a bunch of bullshite along with it. If they want the title of best program, then they damn well better earn it. Otherwise I'm going to point these things out.
If being national champions ain't good enough for people, then tough shite as far as I'm concerned. frick Dabo and frick Clemson, I don't owe them a damn thing.
To be honest, Ohio St did a better job of handling Alabama. The Clemson game was closer than the score looked and Tua was the QB that actually made the best plays(but unfortunately the worst as well). Ohio St actually put the beat down on Alabama and we could not stop them. And as much as I hate Ohio St, they are twice the program Clemson is.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 8/20/19 at 10:28 pm to 3down10
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And as much as I hate Ohio St, they are twice the program Clemson
The last time they played Clemson beat them down.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 10:34 pm to RiverCityTider
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The last time they played Clemson beat them down.
Does anyone around here understand the difference between teams and programs?
Clemson also went on to beat Alabama that year on the pick/rub play.
That means they had the better team that year, it's quite a bit different from being the best program.
But I guess Clemson is fun to play at because you can do stuff like this.
That's literally sexual assault. I'd probably end up in jail for murder if someone did that to me.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:45 pm to Dubosed
quote:You don’t think Najee is overrated?
You're drivel from the MSB keeps on gradually seeping this way. Najee Harris is a bum and now this? Go watch Tombstone boy.
I didn’t call him a bum. And I think it’s a perfectly rational opinion that Clemson’s recruiting is about to reach insane heights.
You’re being a girl.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 5:34 am to 3down10
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I don't know who you were, but obviously nobody gave a shite about you and it's hurt your feelings.
Perhaps something like that. If he actually did play at UA, it could be something happened that pissed him off. I think he said before that he was a walk on, so the fact he didn't play shouldn't be surprising. Maybe a starter screwed his girlfriend. Maybe another player insulted his boyfriend. It could have been any number of things. I got mad at my head coach in spring practice and, like a dummy, I didn't even play my senior year. I still regret that because, actually, the coach was right and I was wrong, but I still don't like him or even the school. I like my daughter's school more than I do the one I attended.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 5:42 am to ReauxlTide222
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You don’t think Najee is overrated?
we don't know yet about that. Damien Harris was also a 5 star rated rb out of high school. Josh Jacobs was a surprise to everybody, and some think he should have gotten more carries. Anyway, I think Najee deserves a year as a starter before we say he is overrated. JMO
Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:26 am to Globetrotter747
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thoughts?
Why are you allowed to troll this group?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:54 am to John Milner
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I got mad at my head coach in spring practice and, like a dummy, I didn't even play my senior year.
How many players in the last ten years would have gone to Bama if not for Saban? That alone tells you that a lot of players are more loyal to their coaches than their school. It’s the people that matter, not buildings and uniforms.
I played for Dabo, and I like Dabo. I also like Alabama. I’m fine with either winning. But you guys who have never done anything but tailgate and cheer in the stands know everything.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:14 am to Globetrotter747
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They beat an undefeated ND and and undefeated Bama each by four TD's. They proved themselves.
You can't have rational thoughts here if they are pro-another team. All the downvotes for you (and me) are from those that claim others are snowflakes.
CC said Bama is the greatest Dynasty he's ever seen but Clemson has a CHANCE to become the best team ever. I don't see anything wrong about that statement. It hurts my feelings but I don't get pissy and emotional about it.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:24 am to ReauxlTide222
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You don’t think Najee is overrated?
well,
he's not.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:42 am to Globetrotter747
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I played for Dabo, and I like Dabo.
Guessing you actually rode pine for Dubose
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:46 am to Funky Tide 8
This is a whole different year for CU and how they handle it will determine the future of their program. What they have done in the past has no bearing on this year.
Several factors people need to consider:
1) This started with D Watson at QB. Easy to make a strong run with him at QB just like UF with Tebow. Those type of QBs only come around every so often. And it was just not the talent he had but his ability to lead when team was down and his ability to carry a team. Trevor may have the talent but I have yet to see him have to put a team on his back and carry them to a victory. Last year it was his D that carried that team.
2) The defense was also special. When was the last time any college team return 4 starters on the DL for their senior year that would have all been drafted as juniors with at least 3 of them going 1st round as juniors? Saban has never had that happened. That D may be solid again this year but there is no way to reload that kind of experience, leadership, and talent.
3) Dabo may be their biggest liability this year. It is easy to play the hunter but to be hunted only Saban has proven over his tenure can handle it. Meyer could not at UF or OSU. Dabo all summer has seem frustrated with all the praise his team is getting and every chance he gets wants to sell his team as the underdog. This is where he shows he can sustain the success or not.
Dynasties sustain for a long period of time including years mixed in where they do not win it all. Clemson has made a great run but they are yet to be a dynasty. And yes they may get(should) back to the playoffs but I do not see them winnings a title this year.
Several factors people need to consider:
1) This started with D Watson at QB. Easy to make a strong run with him at QB just like UF with Tebow. Those type of QBs only come around every so often. And it was just not the talent he had but his ability to lead when team was down and his ability to carry a team. Trevor may have the talent but I have yet to see him have to put a team on his back and carry them to a victory. Last year it was his D that carried that team.
2) The defense was also special. When was the last time any college team return 4 starters on the DL for their senior year that would have all been drafted as juniors with at least 3 of them going 1st round as juniors? Saban has never had that happened. That D may be solid again this year but there is no way to reload that kind of experience, leadership, and talent.
3) Dabo may be their biggest liability this year. It is easy to play the hunter but to be hunted only Saban has proven over his tenure can handle it. Meyer could not at UF or OSU. Dabo all summer has seem frustrated with all the praise his team is getting and every chance he gets wants to sell his team as the underdog. This is where he shows he can sustain the success or not.
Dynasties sustain for a long period of time including years mixed in where they do not win it all. Clemson has made a great run but they are yet to be a dynasty. And yes they may get(should) back to the playoffs but I do not see them winnings a title this year.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:49 am to MoarKilometers
i only have one question.
why does cowhurd hate saban so much? ever since saban arrived at bama, cowhurd has been hating on him and bama, why?
why does cowhurd hate saban so much? ever since saban arrived at bama, cowhurd has been hating on him and bama, why?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:41 am to ReauxlTide222
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You don’t think Najee is overrated?
Not even a little. How can you come to this conclusion when he hasn't even been the feature back yet?
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 9:50 am
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