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Coach DeBoer is light years ahead of hiring Ray Perkins.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:39 am
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:39 am
I don’t really care who he hires. He’s a winner. He wins so I’m gonna let him hire who he wants to….haha! Discuss!
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Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:01 am to Legionfield
Well yeah,,,,,,,Perkins had absolutely no experience coaching at the college level.....zero as in none.....he spent his entire career in the NFL. He built the Giants franchise that Bill Parcells went on to win a couple of Super Bowls with but he was wholly unsuited for the college game. It didn't help things that he was also basically an a-hole.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:13 am to 14&Counting
Yeah…my point is… that is the last time we replaced the goat so we are ahead of the game, haha!!
Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:22 am to 14&Counting
He hated the barn with a passion. Major props for that
Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:36 am to Legionfield
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Yeah…my point is… that is the last time we replaced the goat so we are ahead of the game, haha!!
For sure.....I mean if you look around the spectrum of college coaches there is very few to choose from and we weren't going to go the elevated coordinator route. Really, only two coaches can make an arguable claim to be better than CKD and that's Kirby and Dabo. Kirby isn't going anywhere and Dabo seems to have lost the plot as he is slow to embrace NIL and the portal and lost 4 games in the weak ACC and his seat is getting a bit warm. Kiffin was a non-starter. Who else out there was a better hire? CKD just wiped the floor with Sark and Lanning.
People are freaking out but Byrne did a great job here. These things are always a bit of a crap shoot. We knew we would get a lot better when they hired Saban but he had basically failed up in the NFL and 2007 was pretty rough before he turned it around. DeBoer is stepping into a much better situation and seems like he will have Saban to help guide him for a year. So I am optimistic as possible about our future. The success we had was unprecedented.
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Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:40 am to 14&Counting
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People are freaking out but Byrne did a great job here. These things are always a bit of a crap shoot. We knew we would get a lot better when they hired Saban but he had basically failed up in the NFL and 2007 was pretty rough before he turned it around. DeBoer is stepping into a much better situation and seems like he will have Saban to help guide him for a year. So I am optimistic as possible about our future. The success we had was unprecedented.
Nice post.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:55 am to UASports23
Hell I'm excited to see what DeBoer can do. I haven't been but to one Aday since 2007, I'm going this year.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:55 am to 14&Counting
Bingo!
Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:59 am to Syd
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I haven't been but to one Aday since 2007, I'm going this year.
I mentioned this in another thread. I 100% think that a regime change will revitalize this program in the sense that fans will feel like they NEED to support the program.
While fans would run through a brick wall for CNS. We've been on "auto-pilot" in a lot of ways because CNS had everything locked down. We were in good hands. Now we feel like we need to rally around the program.
I'd love to see 100K folks at A-Day.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 12:09 pm to UASports23
Great point.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 12:12 pm to UASports23
Ray Perkins was a 24K Jack arse. The man went out of his way to tick people off. I’ve never seen anyone like him before or since.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 12:15 pm to Legionfield
Another factor with Perkins was also that he was the athletic director. Back in the day when the head football coach often was the athletic director. If you could go back in time and have Greg Byrne be the AD at the end of Bryant's career, Ray Perkins may not have even gotten an interview. It was such a different era. It's part of why we suffered with Hayden Riley as the head basketball coach and the head baseball coach.
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Posted on 1/15/24 at 12:33 pm to UASports23
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I mentioned this in another thread. I 100% think that a regime change will revitalize this program in the sense that fans will feel like they NEED to support the program
I joined Yea Alabama. Thought never crossed my mind with Saban because I had zero worries about recruiting haha
Posted on 1/15/24 at 12:38 pm to Legionfield
Am I the only person here who liked Perkins and thought he did an excellent job in a difficult situation? He wasn’t Mr. Personality but did he have to be? I know a doctor who’s one of the biggest assholes ever born of a woman, a complete and utter turd, but if I needed help in his specialty there’s not anyone else on this planet I’d go to or take a family member to.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 12:39 pm to 14&Counting
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People are freaking out but Byrne did a great job here
Just imagine, for a second, if BAMA had promoted Rees.
The thought makes me literally sick.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 1:17 pm to gumpinmizzou
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I joined Yea Alabama. Thought never crossed my mind with Saban because I had zero worries about recruiting haha
Ditto.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 2:31 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Am I the only person here who liked Perkins and thought he did an excellent job in a difficult situation?
Probably....He had a mediocre run of 32-15-1. Definitely a major drop-off from the Bryant years.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 3:36 pm to 14&Counting
I still think he did an excellent job in a difficult situation. The only reason he left is because Hugh Culverhouse gave him complete, total, undisputed control of an NFL team both on the sideline and in the front office. Wave that in front of any football coach and you’re going to get his attention.
And while Bama’s standards ALWAYS should be high, expecting Perkins to exactly duplicate what came before after a cataclysmic coaching change is as silly as expecting Kalen DeBoer to exactly duplicate what came before after an equally cataclysmic coaching change.
And while Bama’s standards ALWAYS should be high, expecting Perkins to exactly duplicate what came before after a cataclysmic coaching change is as silly as expecting Kalen DeBoer to exactly duplicate what came before after an equally cataclysmic coaching change.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 3:48 pm to Amarillo Tide
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Ray Perkins was a 24K Jack arse. The man went out of his way to tick people off. I’ve never seen anyone like him before or since.
DeBoer in his opening press conference went out of his way to symbolically link himself to Saban with his comments about asking him for advice every day. Perkins took the exact opposite approach, going out of his way to show that there was a new sheriff in town. It seems like there was a big emphasis on changing things at that time, even tweaking things like changing the chip sponsor from Golden Flake
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Posted on 1/15/24 at 3:54 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Am I the only person here who liked Perkins and thought he did an excellent job in a difficult situation?
He inherited a talent stacked roster and never had fewer than three losses in a season, went 1-3 against Tennessee, 2-2 against Auburn, and even 1-2-1 against lowly LSU. His 1986 team had Cornelius Bennett, Derrick Thomas, Bobby Humphrey, Al Bell, Greg Richardson, Wayne Davis, John Mangum, Wes Neighbors, Van Tiffin, Kerry Goode, Mike Shula, Gene Jelks, and he couldn't even get that team above the Sun Bowl. He angered the NCAA which had major repercussions down the road. His coaching record outside of Alabama was 44-84. Frankly, I think he sucked as a coach.
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