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Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:44 pm to 3down10
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You sure?
I'm sure that what you think, and the drivel you post repeatedly, does not really matter in any significant way; it only matters to you.
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:56 pm to TidalSurge1
Not to derail the current topic but does anybody know if tua or taulia was recruited by texas while strong was headcoach?
Was on the r/rolltide subreddit and came across these posts by a poster named TauliaTagovailoa
"Charlie Strong is and has always been a class act. Love his leadership in the locker room and his no-nonsense approach to everything. Cleaned up Texas's locker room and Louisvilles. Great role model for the student athletes."
"Texas donors didn't like him because he was A) a black man and B) didn't take lip service from them and ran the program the way he wanted too. When you have signs in your locker room, before he got there, that stated 'do not bring guns into the building'. That is a culture problem with the school/program."
"he had issues with the boosters literally day 1."
Maybe someone can confirm or deny if this is actually true but it seems to be very specific
Was on the r/rolltide subreddit and came across these posts by a poster named TauliaTagovailoa
"Charlie Strong is and has always been a class act. Love his leadership in the locker room and his no-nonsense approach to everything. Cleaned up Texas's locker room and Louisvilles. Great role model for the student athletes."
"Texas donors didn't like him because he was A) a black man and B) didn't take lip service from them and ran the program the way he wanted too. When you have signs in your locker room, before he got there, that stated 'do not bring guns into the building'. That is a culture problem with the school/program."
"he had issues with the boosters literally day 1."
Maybe someone can confirm or deny if this is actually true but it seems to be very specific
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:56 pm to TidalSurge1
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I'm sure that what you think and post repeatedly does not really matter in any significant way. But it obviously matters to you.
Sorry to hear you think so little of yourself that your opinion doesn't matter to you.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:01 pm to Cobrasize
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Goulding’s headset won’t be functional this season. He’ll wear them anyway, but Strong will be calling the plays from the press box.
I'm glad they are doing that, so Golding won't be totally humiliated.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:04 pm to Brostache48
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"Texas donors didn't like him because he was A) a black man and B) didn't take lip service from them and ran the program the way he wanted too. When you have signs in your locker room, before he got there, that stated 'do not bring guns into the building'. That is a culture problem with the school/program."
That's always been the rumor/claim. It's unlikely that it would have been more than a few, otherwise why would he get hired to start with? But always a few dumbasses, so I wouldn't doubt it if some were.
Texas recruiting improved after he left, but he still brought in top10 recruiting classes and managed to go 5-7 in the Big12 his final 2 years.
So even if there were some truth to it, it doesn't really excuse the level of bad Texas was.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:14 pm to 3down10
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:26 pm to 3down10
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That's always been the rumor/claim. It's unlikely that it would have been more than a few, otherwise why would he get hired to start with? But always a few dumbasses, so I wouldn't doubt it if some were.
Texas recruiting improved after he left, but he still brought in top10 recruiting classes and managed to go 5-7 in the Big12 his final 2 years.
So even if there were some truth to it, it doesn't really excuse the level of bad Texas was.
The AD and/or the school administration may have wanted Charlie while some influential boosters did not. Hell, that's what it looks like is going on at USC with Clay Helton. The administration wants Helton while some influential boosters do not.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:51 pm to John Milner
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I'm glad they are doing that, so Golding won't be totally humiliated.
He will be busy helping Cochran hold back players after a big play
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:49 pm to Shaft Williams
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The AD and/or the school administration may have wanted Charlie while some influential boosters did not. Hell, that's what it looks like is going on at USC with Clay Helton. The administration wants Helton while some influential boosters do not.
Texas still pulled in top10 classes while he was the HC.
I guess the USF boosters didn't want him either.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 3:34 am to Shaft Williams
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that's what it looks like is going on at USC with Clay Helton. The administration wants Helton while some influential boosters do not.
USC just finished 55th in the nation in its last recruiting cycle. Looks like someone should have been paying more attention what the players wanted.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:38 am to Cobrasize
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It’s been a good read.
It's going to be even better in a year.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:03 am to 3down10
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:45 pm to Funky Tide 8
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And I'll state again, I love that Strong is being brought on as an analyst. I am just trying to understand the hard stance you guys are taking on this.
The Golding haters will never be satisfied till he is fired or gone by other means.
What he does this year with the defense won't matter at all to them. If the defense does well, Strong will get all the credit; if the defense performs poorly, Golding will get all the blame.
Case in point was the Citrus Bowl; Golding got all the blame for the poor play in the first half and none of the credit for making adjustments and shutting 'em out in the second half. There were some folk on here 'speculating' that Saban's tirade lit a fire under the defense and that's what made the difference...
With the Strong hire (which I like), Golding is in a no-win situation this season with the fans and, I suspect, the talking heads as well...
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 2/19/20 at 2:14 pm to OldPete
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The Golding haters will never be satisfied till he is fired or gone by other means.
What he does this year with the defense won't matter at all to them. If the defense does well, Strong will get all the credit; if the defense performs poorly, Golding will get all the blame.
Case in point was the Citrus Bowl; Golding got all the blame for the poor play in the first half and none of the credit for making adjustments and shutting 'em out in the second half. There were some folk on here 'speculating' that Saban's tirade lit a fire under the defense and that's what made the difference...
With the Strong hire (which I like), Golding is in a no-win situation this season with the fans and, I suspect, the talking heads as well...
Yep, but at the end of the day, it's Saban's defense and Saban knows these things. Saban hasn't fired Golding, so Saban must not think Golding is the issue.
If Saban really thought Golding was the issue, he would have been fired months ago. It's only part of the fan base that believes Golding is the problem. Much of which was fueled by bogus insider information calling him goofy and lazy.
Defense also made good adjustments in the 2nd half of the LSU game. Just ran out of steam or whatever late in the 4th.
But yeah, you never hear about shutting Michigan out the 2nd half. Defense did better against Michigan than Ohio St did.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 2:39 pm to 3down10
Seems to me like somebody was making adjustments at halftime. If that was golding dont you think we would've seen those adjustments prior to halftime? Why was it that we had to wait until halftime to get them ironed out and actually start playing good defense? I think saban said after the Michigan game that he made the decision to stay in nickel instead of dime, which led to us getting our best matchups and players on the field. Saban made that decision not golding.
Now I do agree that golding is in a no win situation with a lot of fans, including myself. The way I look at it is, the coaches get paid millions and I'm going to hold them to a much higher standard rather than bashing a 18-21 year old kid giving his best effort. Even though that best effort may not be good enough, it's still on the coaches to put them in the best position to be successful.
Now I do agree that golding is in a no win situation with a lot of fans, including myself. The way I look at it is, the coaches get paid millions and I'm going to hold them to a much higher standard rather than bashing a 18-21 year old kid giving his best effort. Even though that best effort may not be good enough, it's still on the coaches to put them in the best position to be successful.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 2/19/20 at 2:49 pm to 3down10
Two good posts above by OldPete and 3down10.
On the same topic, the reality is that with this run we've been on under Saban, a dynasty by any metric, the Alabama fanbase has become uber spoiled, and respoiled at that, taking into account our long history with Bryant. A giant chunk of our fanbase has become incredibly entitled while not increasing its football IQ, which means that a crapload of Bama fans simply can't handle the fact that we lost 2 games (or even 1 for that matter), and MUST criticize that which they believe THEY are the experts on.
Now, of course, a fan sitting on his couch on Saturday won't jump to criticizing players and their performance unless its obvious and egregious, but they will JUMP to criticizing coaches, as they (the fan) think that they (the fan) could coach better, as coaching is just calling plays, like what they are doing (or could do) from their couch. In reality, coaching is multiple orders of magnitude more difficult and more complicated than calling plays from a couch, but they won't believe it.
And so these poorly-informed football fans fall in love with crucifying coaches and fall in love with the notion that they know better. I mean, our recent iffy at times defensive performance couldn't possibly have been related to obvious personnel issues, because we're BAMA, right? It must be the newcomer DC who I'm smarter than, right? And our defense couldn't possibly have actually been a top-5 defense - the SP+ is full of shite (this year only) - as our defense was clearly a bloody pagan baby sacrifice for the entirety of the year, right? I saw it and we lost and I was mad, so it has to be a coach's fault! ...because I, Joe Bamafan, could do it better. Obviously.
My advice to anyone reading this: when the actual downfall of Alabama really happens some year in the future, whether under Saban or much more likely after, like maybe we go 8-5...
...get off the Alabama internet completely. It will be a festering cesspool of partially-uninformed anger the likes of which have never been seen. Websites like this will become unusable for many fans. It will be hell when it comes. And one day, it will.
And losing 2 games in 2019 wasn't our downfall, nor was it adjacent to the neighborhood of being in the same galaxy as the downfall of Alabama football. But to listen to many Bama fans talk, Alabama went 2-11 in 2019, not 11-2, and Pete Golding sodomized their dog.
On the same topic, the reality is that with this run we've been on under Saban, a dynasty by any metric, the Alabama fanbase has become uber spoiled, and respoiled at that, taking into account our long history with Bryant. A giant chunk of our fanbase has become incredibly entitled while not increasing its football IQ, which means that a crapload of Bama fans simply can't handle the fact that we lost 2 games (or even 1 for that matter), and MUST criticize that which they believe THEY are the experts on.
Now, of course, a fan sitting on his couch on Saturday won't jump to criticizing players and their performance unless its obvious and egregious, but they will JUMP to criticizing coaches, as they (the fan) think that they (the fan) could coach better, as coaching is just calling plays, like what they are doing (or could do) from their couch. In reality, coaching is multiple orders of magnitude more difficult and more complicated than calling plays from a couch, but they won't believe it.
And so these poorly-informed football fans fall in love with crucifying coaches and fall in love with the notion that they know better. I mean, our recent iffy at times defensive performance couldn't possibly have been related to obvious personnel issues, because we're BAMA, right? It must be the newcomer DC who I'm smarter than, right? And our defense couldn't possibly have actually been a top-5 defense - the SP+ is full of shite (this year only) - as our defense was clearly a bloody pagan baby sacrifice for the entirety of the year, right? I saw it and we lost and I was mad, so it has to be a coach's fault! ...because I, Joe Bamafan, could do it better. Obviously.
My advice to anyone reading this: when the actual downfall of Alabama really happens some year in the future, whether under Saban or much more likely after, like maybe we go 8-5...
...get off the Alabama internet completely. It will be a festering cesspool of partially-uninformed anger the likes of which have never been seen. Websites like this will become unusable for many fans. It will be hell when it comes. And one day, it will.
And losing 2 games in 2019 wasn't our downfall, nor was it adjacent to the neighborhood of being in the same galaxy as the downfall of Alabama football. But to listen to many Bama fans talk, Alabama went 2-11 in 2019, not 11-2, and Pete Golding sodomized their dog.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 2:53 pm to prevatt33b
The hyperbolic post in this from both sides is amazing but this was epic. 5 stars
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 2/19/20 at 3:02 pm to Carlton
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The hyperbolic post in this from both sides is amazing but this was epic. 5 stars
That's bullcrap. I'm the least hyperbolic person to ever live.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 3:03 pm to prevatt33b
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