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re: Charlie Strong was in Tuscaloosa Thursday
Posted on 2/21/20 at 8:58 am to prevatt33b
Posted on 2/21/20 at 8:58 am to prevatt33b
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We'll, we completely shut down LSU for the entire 2nd half until their last 2 drives.
So what your saying is that in crunch time, when it matters most, when the game was in the balance, we still got walked down the field twice, when our offense got us back into the game with time to spare. Do they keep an official stat category for that one?
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:02 am to bamameister
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Do we know of a team that was walking the ball down the field on us in the first half this season, besides Michigan, that wasn't still walking the ball down the field in the 4th quarter?
No, I'm saying that we obviously made fantastic halftime adjustments against LSU. It's clear as day. Granted, they were the greatest offense ever assembled and found a way to get it done at the end of the game, but we made fantastic halftime adjustments. And that is the current topic of discussion.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:22 am to bamameister
His statement, referencing past years:
My reply, referencing past years:
Your reply, as if we had been talking about 2019, which we weren't. I humored you with the LSU example, but you obviously weren't following the discussion.
We were talking about halftime adjustments under Kirby and Pruitt. Please try to pay better attention, as you really muck up discussions with your inability to grasp and follow basic concepts.
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When did we have to wait to halftime to make adjustments when kirby or Pruitt was coaching our defenses?
My reply, referencing past years:
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Constantly. As a matter of fact, we won multiple championships in large part because we were such a good halftime adjustment team - better than most anyone we played. The quality of our halftime adjustments under Saban has been legendary.
Your reply, as if we had been talking about 2019, which we weren't. I humored you with the LSU example, but you obviously weren't following the discussion.
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Do we know of a team that was walking the ball down the field on us in the first half this season, besides Michigan, that wasn't still walking the ball down the field in the 4th quarter?
We were talking about halftime adjustments under Kirby and Pruitt. Please try to pay better attention, as you really muck up discussions with your inability to grasp and follow basic concepts.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:35 am to prevatt33b
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No, I'm saying that we obviously made fantastic halftime adjustments against LSU. It's clear as day. Granted, they were the greatest offense ever assembled and found a way to get it done at the end of the game, but we made fantastic halftime adjustments. And that is the current topic of discussion.
Logic would say that when spirits were highest in that 4th quarter when we turned a blowout into a dogfight, we should have rallied to the ball with newfound enthusiasm. As momentum finally turned for the HOME TEAM, with 100,000 crazed Bama fans once again "believing in the process," those halftime adjustments shouldn't have come with a 3rd quarter expiration date.
YouTube would tell you that 5-yard slants turned into 15 and 20-yard chunks. DBs were 5 yards behind a simple 5-yard slant. Anytime, and I truly mean anytime Burrows was pushed for a first down or needed something to keep a critical drive alive Burrows merely had to keep from tripping over his own feet and just keep running to his heart's content.
Shouldn't real halftime adjustments actually last the entire second half? Kinda like the ones Saban made in the Michigan game?
Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:43 am to bamameister
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Logic would say that when spirits were highest in that 4th quarter when we turned a blowout into a dogfight, we should have rallied to the ball with newfound enthusiasm. As momentum finally turned for the HOME TEAM, with 100,000 crazed Bama fans once again "believing in the process," those halftime adjustments shouldn't have come with a 3rd quarter expiration date.
YouTube would tell you that 5-yard slants turned into 15 and 20-yard chunks. DBs were 5 yards behind a simple 5-yard slant. Anytime, and I truly mean anytime Burrows was pushed for a first down or needed something to keep a critical drive alive Burrows merely had to keep from tripping over his own feet and just keep running to his heart's content.
Shouldn't real halftime adjustments actually last the entire second half? Kinda like the ones Saban made in the Michigan game?
Some offense, but this conversation is a complete waste of time. It's like discussing calculus with a toddler - it's a complete waste of time for everyone involved. I wish you well, but I believe your understanding of football is toddler-esque. I believe you never played the game in any significant way, and therefore your opinion carries the same soundness and weight of a person discussing science while never having done any science themselves. The amount of explaining I'd have to do to even have a chance of getting you to understand is simply an exhausting amount of work, and I'm not interested. Take care, man.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:46 am to Brostache48
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When did we have to wait to halftime to make adjustments when kirby or Pruitt was coaching our defenses?
For Pruitt, our last two games against UGA definitely stand out; we pretty much shut down UGA's offense in the second half of both those games, especially compared to how they were moving the ball and scoring on us in the first half...
Since Kirby was DC for much longer there are more examples:
2014 vs WVU
2010 vs Arky
2009 vs Va Tech
2009 vs Auburn
2009 vs Florida
2008 vs LSU
And there was nothing personal in my previous post...I was just trying to point out that your statement about halftime adjustments could apply to all the DCs under Saban, not just Golding...
Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:13 am to TidalSurge1
Quit shitting in the thread. If you got something to add, then add it. But quit posting shitty gifs over and over.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:18 am to prevatt33b
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Some offense, but this conversation is a complete waste of time. It's like discussing calculus with a toddler - it's a complete waste of time for everyone involved. I wish you well, but I believe your understanding of football is toddler-esque. I believe you never played the game in any significant way, and therefore your opinion carries the same soundness and weight of a person discussing science while never having done any science themselves. The amount of explaining I'd have to do to even have a chance of getting you to understand is simply an exhausting amount of work, and I'm not interested. Take care, man.
So the simple question I originally asked was, "Do we know of a team that was walking the ball down the field on us in the first half this season, besides Michigan, that wasn't still walking the ball down the field in the 4th quarter?"
Based on whatever answer you just gave, I'll take that as a NO.
But now this leaving and taking your ball with you, is entirely your call. Not necessary really, but whatever.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:22 am to 3down10
Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:31 am to bamameister
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So the simple question I originally asked was, "Do we know of a team that was walking the ball down the field on us in the first half this season, besides Michigan, that wasn't still walking the ball down the field in the 4th quarter?"
Auburn had one good drive in the 4th quarter against us that resulted in the a touchdown.
SC scored one touchdown in the 4th quarter with 11 seconds to go in the game, down by 20 points.
A&M scored one TD in the 4th with 2 min to go in the game, down 3 scores.
OM did score two TDs in the 4th quarter against us down 52-17.
LSU did walk the ball down the field against us in the 4th quarter for the most part.
no other teams really did much at all against us.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 10:34 am
Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:37 am to Funky Tide 8
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Auburn had one good drive in the 4th quarter against us that resulted in the a touchdown.
SC scored one touchdown in the 4th quarter with 11 seconds to go in the game, down by 20 points.
A&M scored one TD in the 4th with 2 min to go in the game, down 3 scores.
OM did score two TDs in the 4th quarter against us down 52-17.
LSU did walk the ball down the field against us in the 4th quarter for the most part.
no other teams really did much at all against us.
It's good I didn't make this a yes or no question. There's enough qualifying going on here to impeach a president.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:46 am to bamameister
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So the simple question I originally asked was, "Do we know of a team that was walking the ball down the field on us in the first half this season, besides Michigan, that wasn't still walking the ball down the field in the 4th quarter?"
Only 5 teams scored enough points on Bama in 2019 to even warrant looking into the box score (SoCar, OleMiss, TexAM, LSU, au), and in only 2 of those was the first string defense on the field from the mid 3rd quarter onward (LSU, au). We were so far ahead of SoCar, Ole Miss, and TexAM that we put the backup defense in just like all the other blowouts.
LSU:
First half offensive points generated: 33
Second half offensive points generated: 13
auburn:
First half offensive points generated: 20
Second half offensive points generated: 14
And so, after defensive halftime adjustments with the first team defense, LSU's offensive point output was reduced by 60.6%, and auburn's offensive output was reduced by 30% in the second half. Our starting defense wasn't on the field for significant minutes in any other games.
And so in light of this explanation, what point would you like to make regarding your statement above?
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 10:47 am
Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:48 am to bamameister
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It's good I didn't make this a yes or no question. There's enough qualifying going on here to impeach a president.
Just for comparison, the 2017 defense was pretty comparable in regards to 4th quarters.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 11:02 am
Posted on 2/21/20 at 11:03 am to prevatt33b
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Only 5 teams scored enough points on Bama in 2019 to even warrant looking into the box score (SoCar, OleMiss, TexAM, LSU, au)
So what your saying is, whoever was walking the ball down the field on us in the first half, continued to walk the ball down the field on us in the 4th quarter. Even if some of these teams started a freshman QB and some happened to be our hated rival and some of these losses decided who was going to come out of the West or get to the playoff?
Does that about cover it?
Posted on 2/21/20 at 11:06 am to bamameister
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walk the ball down the field on us in the 4th quarter.
What is your idea of "walking the ball down the field?"
Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:46 pm to bamameister
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So what your saying is
(He he goes. He's going to completely miss the point and state some utter nonsense and imply you said it. He's still not going to have a clue.)
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whoever was walking the ball down the field on us in the first half, continued to walk the ball down the field on us in the 4th quarter. Even if some of these teams started a freshman QB and some happened to be our hated rival and some of these losses decided who was going to come out of the West or get to the playoff?
Yep. You still have absolutely no clue.
None of what you stated above is accurate as to the facts, and none of what you stated above is anything close to what I said. This is why I called your understanding of football "toddler-esque." You simply and literally have no clue what you are talking about.
FYI for the future, when you have the urge to type the words "So what your saying is...", please stop and realize 2 things: 1) it's you're, and 2) whatever you write after those words will be hysterical nonsense and should not be written.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:56 pm to bamameister
Furthermore, as you seem to really be focused on the Iron Bowl, removing those two pick-sixes would have resulted in a final score of 55-34 Alabama. And so, why are you criticizing the defense for losing to auburn? That lost doesn't fall on the defense at all.
Oh yeah, you're blaming the defense because you have no clue what you're talking about. I forgot. My bad.
Oh yeah, you're blaming the defense because you have no clue what you're talking about. I forgot. My bad.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 1:13 pm to prevatt33b
Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:20 pm to bamameister
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So what your saying is, whoever was walking the ball down the field on us in the first half, continued to walk the ball down the field on us in the 4th quarter.
So do you think this never happened to our defenses prior to Golding's arrival? Pruitt and Smart were not immune to that either; and it happened with some our better defenses here at Bama ('15, '16, & '17)...
Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:23 pm to prevatt33b
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That lost doesn't fall on the defense at all.
Not this shite again. You guys are acting like we lost 20-14 with both AU’s TDs being the pick sixes. The defense wasn’t as bad as the final score indicated but they weren’t 0% at fault.
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