re: At what point does Greg Byrne's seat start getting hot?

Is the talk going around about the money that was donated to the softball program being used for football NIL legitimate or more made up shite?

Byrne has our overall athletic program in great shape, but he can't controll humans making dumb mistakes. Bohannon's fall was more than a mistake, but the administrator and Miles made human mistakes for which they will pay significantly.

Maybe it’s time for him to stop trying to be everything to everyone and start being a ruthless a-hole that demands respects His current approach clearly isn’t working positively for the University.

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1) to win you have to sometimes deal with unscrupulous people. Money made college sports how it is. There's no going back now, and,

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Sure, but it’s the AD’s responsibility to limit that exposure and to have a coordinated, effective response when something does go poorly.

We’ve had more negative press than any other department in the country this year. Is some of that targeted attacks? Probably, I’m sure the media would rather have bigger cities and bigger schools as the premier athletic programs. At the same time, we’ve done plenty of winning without this sort of shite in the past.

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2) Byrne has made more great hires than bad ones.

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Has he? Oats has been great. Bohannon is a Mike Price tier disaster if he actually has been betting against his own players.

I’d say the jury is out on the rest although swimming and rowing have shown some nice early returns.

Byrne has also failed to accomplish the most important infrastructure investment we need which is a basketball arena.

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If Byrne has to go because of what Bohannon did, then Saban has to go because of what his coaches did. It isn't Saban's responsibility to hold these grown arse men's hands to make sure they don't get into any trouble anymore than it's Byrnes' responsibility.

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Please. No one is saying he needs to hand hold. A leader of any organization is responsible for the actions of the people in that organization. You choose the people you associate yourself with.

Saban also has over a decade of unprecedented success to get a pass for one bad DC hire.

I’m not saying Byrne should be fired at the moment, but soon we will be one of only 32 programs in the Power 2 conferences. Of that 32, we’re one of about 10 that is capable of winning a national title in the most important sport. Of that 10, we’re one of maybe 5 that is capable of consistently winning titles in the most important sport.

Point is, we should hold these people like Byrne to a very high standard because there’s a long line of qualified candidates who’d love to have this job. The high standard and pressure are what the money’s for.

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although swimming and rowing have shown some nice early returns.

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We really haven't. I made a long-winded post about it a couple pages back, but Byrne hires have not been great... just riding the coattails of their predecessors. Gonna be ugly af now the covid super seniors are gone. But to highlight the drop-off, a world champion 200 backstroker got turned in an 11th place finisher at NCAAs, in the same event.

He already said in his post that the swimming hires were poor. His first volleyball hire failed as well.

frick you Moar.

I just asked because I'm not gonna go back several pages and read all of it.

Didn't have to be a-hole.

Yo.. I say this with love.

frick you. Aight?

Have a good evening.

Y’all need to remember that the Alabama athletic department has a long and storied history of screwing up in bad public relations situations. It didn’t begin with Greg Byrne and it won’t end with Greg Byrne. If you need a refresher course, the Mike Price, Mike DuBose, and Wimp Sanderson incidents were all case studies in how not to handle a developing situation and it never seems to change. Do we still have too much cronyism instead of professionalism in the Athletic Department? The entire university? It makes you wonder.

Nate Oats is still relatively new to being a D1 basketball coach and very new at being a head coach at a prominent P5 university. So when an unthinkable, unforeseeable event involving several team members occurred what did the department do? Did they prep him and guide him and coach him on how to handle it and what to say and what not to say? Obviously not! No, someone slapped him on the back and said “good luck!” and they threw him to the media wolves.

The Bohannon situation is simply an unconscionable event that equates to career suicide. There’s no other term for it.

In both cases you had a coach and you had players do something completely outside the bounds of rational decision making. In both cases, incredible lapses in judgement led to life altering consequences for some of the people involved. And in both cases it was unimaginable that they would do something so stupid and so detrimental to themselves, the people around them, and the university they represented. I don’t know how anyone could have foreseen either of those events coming. And it was the responsibility of the entire university to circle the wagons and handle them in the best possible way they could and to seek all the expertise they needed to accomplish that.
So IMHO, don’t lay this at Greg Byrne’s feet. He’s merely a cog in the machine who is doing his job and doing pretty well. The failure is at the institutional level as it has been for many years and the people in charge never seem to learn or to change.