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At what point does Greg Byrne's seat start getting hot?
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:32 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:32 am
He's clearly an excellent fundraiser and "political" AD, which is what a lot of being an AD is at this point. However, part of being a the CEO of what is the equivalent to a large public company is setting a tone at the top and demanding people behave a certain way, and that the organization runs smoothly and doesn't seem to be continually putting out fires (or trying to put them out but pouring gasoline on them instead).
The past 6-12 months have been, frankly, a flaming disaster. Embarrassment after embarrassment from all corners of the department (coaches, players, administrators). Maybe it's just a bad run, but the culture of the department is not looking strong right now. And at some point the person at the top is the guy who is responsible for what happens on his watch.
The past 6-12 months have been, frankly, a flaming disaster. Embarrassment after embarrassment from all corners of the department (coaches, players, administrators). Maybe it's just a bad run, but the culture of the department is not looking strong right now. And at some point the person at the top is the guy who is responsible for what happens on his watch.
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Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:37 am to SummerOfGeorge
I'd wonder if Byrne doesn't survive the year, Saban wins another NC and decides to hang it up, would he be a candidate or have interest as AD.
I could only imagine the pressure of both following Saban at Bama and having him around as the AD.
I could only imagine the pressure of both following Saban at Bama and having him around as the AD.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:38 am to SummerOfGeorge
Hard to say. Some of these things are poor decisions on individuals which is out of his control. The baseball coach was removed immediately. The basketball deal was handled as well as it could be.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:40 am to CrimsonBoz
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Some of these things are poor decisions on individuals which is out of his control
He's the CEO. An isolated, singular event is out of your control. Continuous events across departments of your organization falls on your head, IMHO.
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The basketball deal was handled as well as it could be.
I don't agree with that.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 10:43 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:42 am to CrimsonBoz
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The basketball deal was handled as well as it could be.
Surely you don’t actually believe this
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Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:42 am to SummerOfGeorge
Yeah. Not too happy with his leadership through this academic yeah. Fit a few years worth of scandals into one year.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
This is an insane take, SOG.
Byrne needs to clean house in our PR department but what else Is he suppose to do?
Byrne needs to clean house in our PR department but what else Is he suppose to do?
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:48 am to SummerOfGeorge
Hard to say. Are we assuming that Bohannon's firing is a result of the gambling deal? If it is this could be something that takes Byrne down too.
He's not had a good year at all, and of the people he has hired, Oats is the only one that has been a real home run, and even that has come with some black eyes for the program.
He's not had a good year at all, and of the people he has hired, Oats is the only one that has been a real home run, and even that has come with some black eyes for the program.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 10:50 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:49 am to mistaken4193
I mean, it's not necessarily insane. Accountability has to occur at some point. Byrne's administration at Arizona wasn't exactly scandal free either.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:49 am to SummerOfGeorge
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The past 6-12 months have been, frankly, a flaming disaster. Embarrassment after embarrassment from all corners of the department (coaches, players, administrators). Maybe it's just a bad run, but the culture of the department is not looking strong right now. And at some point the person at the top is the guy who is responsible for what happens on his watch.
Yeah everytime I see Alabama in the news now I'm thinking "What happened now"? It has been a rough go at it for a while now. We need some good news and we need it soon. Things have to turn around soon right?...........right?
I like Byrne and believe he has been pretty solid on his hires, but he has got to get better with the PR stuff and surrounding himself with better PR people because we are losing the war when it comes to information coming out. I don't remember us having such a black eye since Mike Price debacle
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:51 am to mistaken4193
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This is an insane take, SOG.
Agree to disagree, I guess. The reputation of our athletic department is in the shitter right now, and everyday a new story comes out that drives it lower and lower.
- Associate AD, who already had a DUI before being hired, is arrested for assault.
- Baseball coach is fired in gambling scandal
- Basketball player arrested for being an accessory to murder (and the absolutely horrid department response to the event).
This has all happened in a 4 month period of time. Maybe it is just a bad stretch, but when you make the big bucks to run a company then you become responsible for that company and it's reputation. And don't forget that Byrne's tenure at Arizona wasn't exactly lily white, either.
I don't think he needs to be fired immediately or anything, but I do think that it is clearly time for a department wide come to Jesus meeting and some cultural changes.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 10:54 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:56 am to CrimsonBoz
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The basketball deal was handled as well as it could be.
Hard disagree. That was an absolute PR nightmare and our comms department was embarrassingly inefficient.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:59 am to TheNameIsDalton
The only thing we did wrong in that was Nate’s “Wrong Place, Wrong Time “ comment. Which is the PR departments failure for not grabbing him as soon as he walked off the practice court to brief him before the press conference
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:02 am to mistaken4193
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The only thing we did wrong in that was Nate’s “Wrong Place, Wrong Time “ comment. Which is the PR departments failure for not grabbing him as soon as he walked off the practice court to brief him before the press conference
Disagree - they bungled the entire thing. Didn't get out in front of something that everyone knew had happened (Miller/Bradley being on site). Then, when it was reported by the media, we acted like we had no idea it had happened or how to respond to it.
The situation was bad because an Alabama player was involved with a murder. But the one that they truly fricked over with their absolutely pathetic handling of that situation was Brandon Miller.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:03 am to SummerOfGeorge
I think that's a crazy take. Basketball situation was handled poorly... but like others said, lot of stuff that happened, it was on individual.... I bet he clean the house within the program in next few months, implement new policies and etc.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:08 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:The basketball stuff wasn’t great. But he survived it.
He's the CEO. An isolated, singular event is out of your control. Continuous events across departments of your organization falls on your head, IMHO.
What does a coach or whatever then going and gambling on baseball have to do with Greg?
If we can do better, then fire him, idc. But I don’t know how this baseball thing can be his fault.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:11 am to ReauxlTide222
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What does a coach or whatever then going and gambling on baseball have to do with Greg?
If we can do better, then fire him, idc. But I don’t know how this baseball thing can be his fault.
It's his fault in the same way that having a senior executive committing fraud is your fault as the CEO. You sign off. It's your job to create a culture where multiple events that are destructive to the organization don't keep happening and eroding your organization's reputation.
This isn't about one singular event, it's about a pattern of events that seem to be happening across the department. And that should lead to some heat on the CEO, IMHO, and at the very least a big time pow wow discussion about how we get this thing back on the tracks. Because right now we're a walking laughing stock.
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Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:12 am to SummerOfGeorge
Byrne had some issues like this at Arizona too, but this is kind of reactionary. Feels like a Reddit post. If there was a common thread to all of this stuff it would be a lot more concerning from an organizational standpoint, but I'm really not seeing one. There is a big difference between a handful of unrelated incidents that all happen to occur in a relatively short time frame and the kind of administrative failures that have been documented at places like Baylor and LSU.
If, for example, people had raised concerns over Bohannon, this assistant AD, or Miles having a sketchy friend hanging around the basketball team and Byrne was stonewalling efforts to look into it that'd be a much, much different story IMO.
If, for example, people had raised concerns over Bohannon, this assistant AD, or Miles having a sketchy friend hanging around the basketball team and Byrne was stonewalling efforts to look into it that'd be a much, much different story IMO.
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Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:14 am to Robot Santa
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If there was a common thread to all of this stuff it would be a lot more concerning from an organizational standpoint, but I'm really not seeing one.
That's my hope. Just a bad few months.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:16 am to SummerOfGeorge
He’s one of if not the best AD in the country. Bama’s sports teams are currently ranked #5 in the Learfield Director’s Cup, which measures a school’s strength across all athletic teams. That’s ahead of every other SEC school. Give him a chance to right the ship.
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