re: At what point does Greg Byrne's seat start getting hot?

Don’t know who blocked it, the NCAA, Sankey, or Saban, but if Jeremy Pruitt were back on staff could you imagine?

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O'Brien wasn't around in 2019, and Golding had been calling games for about half a season at that point. Yeah, they probably weren't catching much heat at that point

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Yeah Golding sucked from the beginning (2019) and O'Brien sucked from the beginning (16 months ago)

You're so smart guy, did I really have to break that down?

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I don’t know how this baseball thing can be his fault.

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Lol you have no point. You just wanna bitch about them and will fit it in into any discussion. Look at your post history. You’re like a scored 12 year old. I honestly feel sorry for you. Imagine being this damaged by football coaches

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Was there ever any administrative punishment for Golding’s DUI last year that was announced publicly? I don’t ever remember seeing anything.

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That drunk arse loser infected the entire athletic department.

I don't agree with this at all, and if it was anyone but you, SOG, posting it, it would be downvoted into oblivion. You've earned everyone's respect through the years with good takes, but this is a bad take. Byrne is one of the best in the business and these situations haven't changed that.

The PR around the basketball thing was bad, I'll give you that, but ultimately, the program made the right decision and stuck with it in the face of tremendous opposition. They immediately kicked the responsible party off the team, and stood with the guy that was innocent. That took a coach and an AD with guts to make that call when everyone was jumping to conclusions.

Firing the Bohannon was the right decision and Byrne didn't hesitate.

I don't know what you expect the AD to do. The coaches answer to the AD. Have any of them besides Bohannon committed fireable offenses? If not, then the AD is doing his job. It's the coaches that set the culture of their teams.

Byrne's seat should not even be warm, unless we find out that he's known about serious violations being committed on his watch and did nothing about them or helped cover them up. That, to my knowledge, has not been the case.

This post is spot on. It’s embarrassing to be associated with this athletics department at the moment. Fair or not - it’s the AD’s job to get control of that.

Everyone saying “oh it’s the PR team” - do you really think Byrne isn’t heavily involved in public relations planning? I’d argue PR is an athletic director’s most important job outside of the occasional head coach hiring.

Blaming some nameless PR staff instead of the AD making big money doesn’t make sense to me.

I want to make it clear I don't want Byrne fired. I do think we've reached a point where there needs to be a culture cleanse inside the department and it made clear that we're past the point of second chances for any level of indiscretion. Things have to be perfect moving forward.

Would any of you rather be squeaky clean and win less? How much less?

I wouldn't. I love Alabama. Winning comes with a price. It involves dealing with players and coaches that might sacrifice integrity for wins. Should Bohannon been fired? Yes. He was. Gambling while playing/coaching is inappropriate. His actions aren't on par, and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as how Oats handled the killing of a woman by someone not even involved with the program. IDGAF. As far as I'm concerned even Miles is NOT GUILTY. The shooter is responsible. Period. But then again, I believe in personal responsibility. Involving Miller in that crime was just journalistic opportunism and sensationalism at its worst perpetrated by enemies of the University. Bradley was there too. Why wasn't he lambasted by the media like Miller was? Because he wasn't on the court sinking buckets like Miller was. How can an AD ward off media scrutiny, when said scrutiny is mere blind, jealous hatred of The Capstone?
Which brings me to Byrne. He has done his job, and well. How could he have known that Bohannon was a degenerate gambler? He isn't clairvoyant. He made a judgment call. Everyone that hires people misses occasionally, but I, for one, am not ready to call for his head because of any of these unrelated incidents that people are trying to make into a cancerous whole. These are the same people that want The University destroyed. So they write their shitty articles and post their shitty drivel onto social media in order to cast BAMA as evil so that their own failures aren't magnified and those of their universities. It'd be different if these clowns weren’t fan boys, but they are. There isn't a modicum of integrity between them. So, frick these people and everyone calling for Byrne to be fired and for Miller to be arrested and that Saban is declining. Until BAMA is 8-4 or 7-6, you can all eat a bag of dicks.

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Would any of you rather be squeaky clean and win less? How much less?

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How did having a coach that bets against his own team help us win games? How did our associate AD committing domestic violence help us win games? We all saw with our own eyes that having a drunkard as defensive coordinator lost us games.

The only piece of this that helped us win games was not suspending Miller, and the OP made it pretty clear that his problem with that is how the department handled it from a media standpoint - not that Miller should have been booted from the team.

I’d argue that Byrne’s department cost us games by handling the Miller situation so poorly. The scrutiny clearly affected Miller’s mindset in the NCAA tournament.

If Byrne isn’t responsible for any of the actions of the people he hires/oversees, why does he deserve any credit when the teams win?

All these scandals affect fundraising, which is the main way an AD can affect winning. Do you think anyone wants to cut a check to a program where the head coach seems to have bet against his own players?