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re: No KKK thread?

Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:51 am to
Posted by ngadawg250
Northwest Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:51 am to
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You can only compromise if two sides want to compromise. The left does not want to compromise.


There is no doubt about it. This confederate thing is just a smoke screen. Next the focus will be on Washington, Jefferson, etc. If fact, it already is. Anything regarding the founding of America is in their cross hairs. One by one the Bill of Rights is being attacked. The end goal for some dumb reason is a totalitarian regime with some psychopath leading. Who will promptly turn his power on them and kill them all.
Posted by ngadawg250
Northwest Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:56 am to
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you don't say Nostradamus? Thanks for blessing us with your 12th post.



Posted by MacDawg
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2015
362 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:17 am to
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You're no libertarian, friend. Libertarians DO leave you alone.....but they also leave all those LGBT people alone.

Libertarianism really boils down to one simple law/theory......if you don't harm another's property, it's legal (where property can be life, assets, health, etc.).

The frustrations you list aren't harming you or your property in any way. You're only harmed by finding the entire LGBT nonsense disgusting. A libertarian would never talk about "pushing back" against such a personal thing as sexual orientation.

Why not just come out and say you're a republican? What is with those on the right embarrassed to be republicans so they hide behind the libertarian label in public but vote straight GOP in the voting booth?


1st - I am far more Libertarian than anything else but I do not fit neatly in any box just like most people.

2nd - I mentioned the Gay Marriage / Bathroom issues to illustrate how the left never stops pushing their agenda forward and therefore compromise isn't likely. Heck, what they chose to call themselves, "progressives", perfectly illustrates that point.

3rd - My opinion around the bathroom issue doesn't contradict my Libertarian views but rather supports them. My feeling is that whatever anyone does in their privacy of their own home is their own business. I never had any issue with Gay Marriage because of the way tax laws are written. But with the Bathroom issue I am forced to care because I have a young child and I do not want nor do I think I should be forced to have a conversation with that child explaining why a Man is using the woman's bathroom or vice versa. In other words, this agenda driven issue is now impacting my life.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:39 am to
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A libertarian would never talk about "pushing back" against such a personal thing as sexual orientation.


Sexual orientation quit being a personal issue when it became a political football. I don't go around telling everybody I am heterosexual. Why? because, frankly nobody cares. I don't care or want to hear that someone is homosexual, or transgendered or bi-sexual, or they are a man who thing=ks they are a woman or they are a woman who is trapped in a mans body, etc, etc.

Saw where a politician in some western state was married to a woman who used to be a man. (They got married after the transition from man to woman) What? This person was a man, but wanted to be a woman then "married" a woman? I guess they were a lesbian trapped in a man's body? Nothing makes sense anymore.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54622 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:18 am to
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Bingo




Genreal Question : If you flash your own beer belly or man boob, does it count?

Seems like cheating but it does get 2 spots on the card covered.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:46 pm to
If you kill a woman while she's peeing in public, you get four: female public urination, corpse, blood puddle, urine puddle. Two more may also follow: cop on Segway and police brutality.

That's a lot of spaces covered for one little murder.
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
7446 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:01 pm to
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That's a lot of spaces covered for one little murder.

But does it get you bingo?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14164 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 8:49 pm to
Been reading up in this rally and there's some interesting ties between the rally organizers and Euro Neo Nazis and support worldwide for these groups from Putin/Russia. This onion has many layers and now it looks like both sides have dark forces behind them moving pieces.

We really need to get a handle on these extremists running around. Why the hell doesn't the media do a better job on this shite? Are they that lazy or just stupid?
Posted by Rules
Warm. Year round.
Member since Sep 2012
4085 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:23 pm to
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Why the hell doesn't the media do a better job on this shite?

The media is so anti-Trump that they have lost all objectivity. They will push any agenda, no matter how pathetic, as long as it makes DJT look bad.

These are the same guys that broke the Watergate scandal. The current crop aren't fit to hold Woodward's pecker when he pisses.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:53 pm to
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as it makes DJT look bad


He provides them with considerable material.

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broke the Watergate scandal


35% still supported Nixon after he waved goodbye in disgrace...the only conceivable way they could rationalize it was to either ignore facts and claim he was set up or to excuse the wrong-doing for partisan reasons.


No matter how big a story the media might break, there will be somebody calling it 'fake news.'
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:22 pm to
That number would likely mirror any deposed President R or D... and frankly, what he did was not as bad as Iran-Contra or the 30 scandals of Clinton, but Rs love Reagan and Ds love Clinton.... that 35% should not come as a surprise. People in this country are conditioned to treat their politics like their sports teams...
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:29 pm to
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Why the hell doesn't the media do a better job on this shite? Are they that lazy or just stupid?

You're kidding, I hope.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:39 pm to
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No matter how big a story the media might break, there will be somebody calling it 'fake news.'

For now, at least.

Thank God.

PS frick you

Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:55 pm to
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People in this country are conditioned to treat their politics like their sports teams...

Nope. Actually not at all. Just patriots against patriots splitting a few hairs.

This is our perfect and fine centralized system functioning gloriously. And this is exactly how it is suppose to work. No conditioning is required.

Pay no attention to the monuments to de-centralization being toppled behind you. Just some pesky renovations we're undergoing yes. Thank you for your patience comrades.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17463 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 6:29 am to
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The media is so anti-Trump that they have lost all objectivity. They will push any agenda, no matter how pathetic, as long as it makes DJT look bad. These are the same guys that broke the Watergate scandal. The current crop aren't fit to hold Woodward's pecker when he pisses.


One of the few times I will agree with a techie...
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14164 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:06 am to
So now tech companies actively taking down white supremacist web sites and refusing to host them or release domain names. Tech companies don't want to promote hate speech.

Same companies that host ISIS and AlQueda sites because - y'know - free speech.

I wonder if there were two gay white supremacists that wanted to get married and have these companies host pictures of their wedding .... would the world explode?

BtW I think companies should be free to decide who they do business with so I have no problem with this.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 7:40 am
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 11:18 am to
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People in this country are conditioned to treat their politics like their sports teams...


^^^^Yep.^^^^^

Made worse by the general level of ignorance. One of numerous examples:

"A report in 2010 published by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute found that 15,000 randomly selected college students at 50 schools around the country obtained an average score under 50 (out of 100) on a test that measured their knowledge of basic American civics and government."

And those were people in college. Wonder what the stats are for those who couldn't get in college.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 11:25 am to
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BtW I think companies should be free to decide who they do business with so I have no problem with this.


Sounds like you are complaining about it. But FWIW, pro-ISIS and similar sites are pulled all the time. I'm curious to know a source that shows U.S. ISPs or web-hosting companies are more willing to host ISIS/Islamic terrorist crap than they are white supremacist/Nazi crap. I don't think that's the case at all but certainly interested to know if anyone has looked into this. (meaning an at least reasonably objective source...not Sean Hannity... )
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14164 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 11:44 am to
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I'm curious to know a source that shows U.S. ISPs or web-hosting companies are more willing to host ISIS/Islamic terrorist crap than they are white supremacist/Nazi crap.


How about the CEO himself of Cloudflare - that cut the ties to neo-nazis sites this week were all about free speech in 2013 and later in 2015 when accused of assisting Islamic terrorists.

Read the link below and then contrast with what he's doing now. It's laughable.

Google is your friend
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 11:49 am
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 4:42 pm to
I don't claim to know anything about Cloudflare but got interested in this so did a little more digging. They explain the reason for making their 'exception' here:

We dumped Daily Stormer not because they're Nazis but because they said we love Nazis

Their CEO says that "he terminated Daily Stormer's account after the web blog's administrators suggested Cloudflare was protecting them because it secretly agreed with the site's neo-Nazi articles. "Price explained, "We could not remain neutral after these claims of secret support by Cloudflare.""

Whether that's true, only the CEO and their team knows. It could be true...or it could be the CEO trying to make a political statement. Though given that they are apparently willing to host just about anything and claim neutrality, not sure it would make a lot of sense from a business standpoint for them to be anti-Nazi but okay with ISIS.

I suppose all web hosts have the right to determine their terms of service but net neutrality should be the aim (in my opinion).
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