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RD Dawg
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
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You can probably imagine the shell-shock of going to Georgia State and living on campus after graduating from North Oconee as a sheltered white female.


Why in the world would an Oconee Co kid go to GSU? And if they do go I would assume they had friends that went there and had visited the campus multiple times before they enrolled.

How in the world would they be surprised about anything surrounding the school?


S1C EM
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
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Why in the world would an Oconee Co kid go to GSU? And if they do go I would assume they had friends that went there and had visited the campus multiple times before they enrolled.

How in the world would they be surprised about anything surrounding the school?


As to why, this particular student was the clear definition of a bleeding-heart liberal. She’s also lesbian and I think she just wanted to be somewhere that wasn’t the whitewashed boonies of Oconee. She did visit, but having worked there for three years, I can tell you that what you see in the daytime won’t prepare you for walking the streets at night. She only lasted there a semester.


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RD Dawg
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
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VADawg
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
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What the more rational protesters mean by "defunding" the police is to greatly strengthen community outreach programs to allow the police to be police instead of social workers


That's not what any of them mean. They literally want to eliminate police departments so they can commit crimes with no consequences.
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Whiznot
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Member since Oct 2013
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They literally want to eliminate police departments so they can commit crimes with no impunity.


You are wrong twice. Once for what you tried to say and once for what you actually said.

No impunity?? Do you know the definition of impunity?


GurleyGirl
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
Liberal progressives are smarter than dumb redneck conservatives; they remind us often. That's why inner cities that have been managed by liberal progressive Democrats for decades have been so successful. Translation: We should listen to liberal progressive Democrats and defund all police departments toward building a world.


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Floyd Dawg
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Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
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The us versus them “come home alive” mentality.


I've lost 2 LEO family members and the LEO priority objective is to come home alive. Everything else is second.

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Civil asset forfeiture is bull shite unless your convicted and the assets are a direct result of you crimes.


Completely agree with this. Due process violation all the way currently.


Whiznot
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
The war against drugs is at the root of many of society's problems. I have no respect for anyone who enforces or prosecutes anti-drug laws. Drug raids have killed many nonviolent citizens and they've killed many cops. Freedom is the solution.


VADawg
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You are wrong twice. Once for what you tried to say and once for what you actually said.

No impunity?? Do you know the definition of impunity?



Yes, I rephrased it. No repercussions is what I was going for.


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deeprig9
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
1- Decriminalize Marijuana

This would remove (millions?) of police-public interactions every year.



2- End no-knock warrants.

These are the type of interactions that most often result in shootouts, when the perp could have simply been tailed and snatched later. My best friend's brother in law got capped by Cobb County cops a few years ago on a no-knock warrant. He'd robbed the Mars Hill waffle house, went home, passed out, cops busted in, he jumped out of bed confused and in a haze, and got blasted. totally unnecessary. The old lady in Atlanta that got capped by the cops on a no-knock warrant, Katherine Johnston I think her name was. It happens every year. 100% of them could be eliminated by ending no-knock warrants.


3- End high speed chases.

I was against banning chases ten years ago when it was a big issue, but now there's technology to track mofo's by the computer in their car, their cell, drones, choppers, traffic cams, etc. No need to endanger the public in a high speed car chase except very rare circumstances. Every year people are killed as a result of police chases that are unnecessary. I know this isn't related to shooting unarmed suspects or miliarization, but it does involve police action that sometimes results in loss of innocent life.


4- Make police officers on the street upper-middle class jobs.

For the ATL market, start them at $74,000 (higher in NY, etc) for a rookie, with the standard 3% pay raise annually. This does not include desk work, this is for the guys and gals on the street, going into these shitty situations daily. This would attract so many more intelligent even-keeled people to the profession. It boggles my mind how anyone wants to be a cop today. And as much as I hate to admit it, I am skeptical of most cops for this reason, I have to assume they have a screw loose. Not only does this attract more candidates to the position, it also has the secondary affect of sweeping out the lowest qualified or troubled cops.


5- End police unions.

End all public sector unions. If you frick up or don't follow protocol, you're shitcanned. You are accountable for what you do each hour of each day you wear that badge, and just like private sector employees, you will be held accountable. The chief isn't going to wait for a video of you to hit twitter to take action. If you show a pattern of acting a fool, you are fired, and there's no union to sue on your behalf.



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meansonny
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4- Make police officers on the street upper-middle class jobs.

For the ATL market, start them at $74,000 (higher in NY, etc) for a rookie, with the standard 3% pay raise annually. This does not include desk work, this is for the guys and gals on the street, going into these shitty situations daily. This would attract so many more intelligent even-keeled people to the profession. It boggles my mind how anyone wants to be a cop today. And as much as I hate to admit it, I am skeptical of most cops for this reason, I have to assume they have a screw loose. Not only does this attract more candidates to the position, it also has the secondary affect of sweeping out the lowest qualified or troubled cops.


Have you ever seen a county or city budget?

Would you be prepared for the taxes that this would require?


deeprig9
Member since Sep 2012
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
For street cops, it's just a drop in the bucket of the budget. And yes I would be honored to pay tax on something useful.

I forgot number 6- build more prisons. How many people shot by cops shouldn't have been on the street in the first place?


lewis and herschel
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
These knuckleheads want to send in social workers. Awesome, entitled middle class princesses who wanted an MRS Degree and not work too hard college, now being interjected into full bore domestic disputes.

Skills, none.


deeprig9
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These knuckleheads want to send in social workers. Awesome, entitled middle class princesses who wanted an MRS Degree and not work too hard college, now being interjected into full bore domestic disputes.

Skills, none.


When a woman of any color fears for her and her children's safety when her house-man gets drunk and pissed off and violent, does she want Kaitlyn to show up with a briefcase or Michael to show up with a 40 cal?

99% want Big Mike who doesn't give a frick and can handle whatever drunk house-man throws at him.

People don't call the cops when they have a domestic argument. They call the cops when it gets violent. Send Kaitlyn into that drug-hazed chamber of violence at 1 AM with her pant-suit and an iPad with anger management cartoons queued up is a recipe for lots and lots of dead Kaitlyn's. Kaitlyn is better off as a cashier at Publix and the women and children of the home are better off with Mike showing up to diffuse drunk daddy. Every, single, time.



lewis and herschel
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
Kaitlyn heeds the advice to arm herself and with daddy's charge card gets swindled into buying a .410 derringer from bond arms. $900 later she creates the next shite storm by shooting an innocent by stander with a .410 blast to the dick when it falls out of her hipster skinny jeans and goes off. City gets sued for loss of consort and their child transfers to a hillbilly school.
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meansonny
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ATL
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
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For street cops, it's just a drop in the bucket of the budget


Agree to disagree. 80-85% of a police/sheriff budget is personnel.

DeKalb County starts officers at $42k.
DeKalb County has 860 sworn officers.
If you ask law enforcement in Dekalb, they are currently underfunded.

You would be looking at an 80% increase in personnel costs for new cops and a massive increase for the rest of the force.
What are your feelings about evictions for unpaid property taxes?


deeprig9
Member since Sep 2012
40052 posts

re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
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Agree to disagree. 80-85% of a police/sheriff budget is personnel.

DeKalb County starts officers at $42k.
DeKalb County has 860 sworn officers.
If you ask law enforcement in Dekalb, they are currently underfunded.

You would be looking at an 80% increase in personnel costs for new cops and a massive increase for the rest of the force.
What are your feelings about evictions for unpaid property taxes?



For simplicity lets say all 860 of those are beat cops, no desk cops or corrections etc.

The minimum is already $42k. So let's add $30k to get $72k.

30k x 860 = $25.8 million

Dekalb budget for 2020 is $1.4 billion.

The additional salary represents a 1.8% increase in the overall budget.

I'm pretty sure they could find 1.8% to slash from other bull shite in their budget. But, even if they couldn't, then just raise property taxes 1.8%.


Also.... if you live in the community you serve, you pay zero property tax and you get an extra 3%.
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Porter Osborne Jr
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
I agree with most of not all you listed. If you decriminalize weed then you wouldn’t need to build an extra prisons.


deeprig9
Member since Sep 2012
40052 posts

re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
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If you decriminalize weed then you wouldn’t need to build an extra prisons.


People arent in prison for weed.


deeprig9
Member since Sep 2012
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
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What are your feelings about evictions for unpaid property taxes?


The family that saves together pays together.



-The Sheriff of Nottingham



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