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AlaCowboy
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
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I have no respect for anyone who enforces or prosecutes anti-drug laws.


I have no respect for anyone that has no respect for those that enforce or prosecute laws.


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Porter Osborne Jr
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
You sure about that?


deeprig9
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You sure about that?


I'm sure you could cherry pick a few random cases where it involves trafficking, or some other serious bull shite they couldn't nail the guy for but they got him for weed, similar to how they took down the mob with tax law when they couldn't pin murders on them, etc.

But by no means are jails and prisons full of weed smokers and small time weed dealers. It's a completely false precept. I will stand behind that.


Porter Osborne Jr
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I'm sure you could cherry pick a few random cases where it involves trafficking, or some other serious bull shite they couldn't nail the guy for but they got him for weed,


There's more than a few.

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But by no means are jails and prisons full of weed smokers and small time weed dealers. It's a completely false precept. I will stand behind that.


I'm not saying that either are full only that you don't need to build more prisons and the number of people incarcerated would go down if weed were legalized.


deeprig9
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People in jail for weed "only" are typically in jail for weed as a parole violation, after being released early from prison for a much more serious offense. They are simply serving out the rest of the sentence originally given to them for assault and battery, attempted murder, etc.

Those people wouldn't have been released from prison in the first place if it weren't for overcrowding.

Weed has jack shite to do with it. That's a 30 year old talking point.

Weed legal in CA and CO, prison still overcrowded.
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Porter Osborne Jr
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People in jail for weed "only" are typically in jail for weed as a parole violation, after being released early from prison for a much more serious offense. They are simply serving out the rest of the sentence originally given to them for assault and battery, attempted murder, etc.


So we're ignoring the fact that they wouldn't have to serve out the rest of their sentence if weed was legalized and free up more space?


AlaCowboy
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So we're ignoring the fact that they wouldn't have to serve out the rest of their sentence if weed was legalized and free up more space?


No. You are ignoring the fact they are serving out the rest of their sentence because they broke an existing law. Until the law is repealed, they must leave the weed alone. Repeal the law. That's how progress is made.
Today is the anniversary of the Loving v Commonwealth of Virginia Supreme Court decision, that made interracial marriage legal. That's how progress is made.


Lucius Clay
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Hell, walking into Kroger on Union Ave, dude shite in front of the doors in plain sight. Cured her bleeding heart.


So she discovered that there are crazy, homeless people? How did that cure her bleeding heart? If anything, maybe she should have started thinking about how deinstitutionalization caused a lot of problems when there was nothing to replace it.


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Porter Osborne Jr
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No. You are ignoring the fact they are serving out the rest of their sentence because they broke an existing law. Until the law is repealed, they must leave the weed alone. Repeal the law.


No shite. That's why we're discussing his point that marijuana needs to be decriminalized. He is saying there would not be fewer prisoner and I disagree with it.. No one is saying it's not.


deeprig9
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re: Mariah Parker & Tim Denson - Defunding the ACC Police
I get your point that if weed was decrim'd then those parolees would still be free (hypothetically..) but it's my position those parolees shouldn't have been released in the first place, they were only released because there's not enough prison space.

I don't know about nationally, but I know in Georgia that the population has doubled, schools have doubled, over the last 20 years, but jail cells have remained constant.

If a prisoner gets early release, it should be for a better reason than the fact we need that cell for a new convict.

Too many repeat offenders on the streets. Pick a random article from Athens or ATL media about a person being arrested for something. Search their name on google and they've been in and out of jail for 10 years for some serious crimes. Career criminals.


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MacDawg
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I forgot number 6- build more prisons. How many people shot by cops shouldn't have been on the street in the first place?


If you decriminalize marijuana, you probably won't need more prisons.


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MacDawg
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People arent in prison for weed.


With three strike laws, yes they are. Prisons are filled with non violent drug offenders, many for marijuana possession with intent to distribute.


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Leon S Kennedy
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She looks almost exactly as expected.


She's cute, but the hair is bit much.


Rex Feral
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She's cute,

And bat shite crazy


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Gtmodawg
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It's more so the large city PDs. My father was a police chief for two different medium/large cities. I don't feel they need to buy used equipment from the US military. I go with the theory that the more heavily armed they are the more likely they are to use it instead of trying to de-escalate the situation.


The equipment is a problem but the training that they receive is equally problematic....many times it is more akin to military training than protecting and serving. The police are not soldiers and should never be seen as such because it demeans their very important role in society....a role that is in no manner similar to the role the military plays in society. Police are supposed to protect and serve the citizenry. The military is supposed to defend the nation and its institution against foreign AND domestic threats....that is not a remotely subtle difference but when we declared war on drugs the roll of the police changed dramatically....police should not be asked to be mental health professionals, marriage counselors or soldiers.

Right off the bat they should be taught and it should be written in stone that if the crime the person is suspected of is non violent if they are fleeing let them...fewer than half of all crime in the US is reported...less than half of what is reported is solved...relatively speaking one more unsolved crime instead of a person shot multiple times in the back as they flee a suspected crime is meaningless....it isn't worth fist fighting in the street. But they are trained to make arrests....it is what the public demands....but it is not necessary and it doesn't make a difference in the number of crimes committed. The police's presence makes way more of an impact on lowering crime rates than making arrests does.....watch what people do when they see a state trooper on the side of the road and the difference in their reaction when they are on the side of the road with someone they have pulled over.....that cop is out of commission....its autobahn time...but when he is not busy...brake lights erywher….the presence of cops has far more impact on crime than arresting people does...a camera in the hand of a cop is devastating...facial recognition software is real...they don't need to arrest someone who obviously is going to fight....they can take a picture of them and arrest them later and their decision to do so indicates the person showed signs that they would resist and therefore the charges would be elevated.....what they do not need to be doing is wrestling in the streets and shooting fleeing people...there is nothing good that comes from any of that....


lewis and herschel
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Good luck getting or even keeping police. The US is fricked and we will need Batman to save Gotham and the rest of the US for that matter. Crime about to go through the roof.

frick the anarchist left, frick them.


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VADawg
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Right off the bat they should be taught and it should be written in stone that if the crime the person is suspected of is non violent if they are fleeing let them


So if someone robs a store without hurting anyone, just let them get away with it? Are you fricking serious????


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