re: Kemp... Barbershops and gyms to open Friday...

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New York is responsible for over 45% of the deaths in this country.

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I don't even know how to categorize NY City.

For all intents and purposes, it should be looked at a Tri State area. So many people commute from New Jersey and Connecticut. So many people have businesses in New Jersey and Connecticut where they are in New York City for clients or supply chain vendors.

This tristate cluster is supported by the 3 states all having the countries worst deaths/million population. And it isn't really close. Over 55% of the nation's fatalities are in those 3 states.

It is scary what has happened to those communities.

I cant see how people look to this area as an example of good leadership, good planning, and good crisis mitigation.
Everythin tangible as far as evidence shows this as the worst spot in the world

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I don't even know how to categorize NY City.

For all intents and purposes, it should be looked at a Tri State area. So many people commute from New Jersey and Connecticut. So many people have businesses in New Jersey and Connecticut where they are in New York City for clients or supply chain vendors.

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FWIW... My wife is from Jersey, you can pretty much draw a line E to W across the state a lil S of Edison and that's the NYC hotspot area, especially Newark.

South of that and along the Jersey Shore are pretty much in line with the rest of the US.

No idea about Conn. But I think Long Island might be kinda insulated from the NYC crisis...

Ultimately, Trump as President is responsible for the country's pandemic planning and readiness. This includes national stockpiles and many other things. States and cities have responsibilities as well, but a lot is on the federal government in terms of public health preparedness and response leadership, systems, emergency funding, and other resources. There is an entire part of Dept of Health and Human Services devoted to this, with an Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response, as well as component agencies. The feds fund state and city health departments for preparedness and response and are supposed to ensure readiness as well as coordination in a national emergency.

The reality is, the federal government can't be solely responsible, but does have a major role. Trump has pulled out all sorts of nonsense, including saying that he "inherited a mess" from Obama. That isn't going to fly three and a half years into the job. And blaming governors and mayors is only going to get him so far.

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But he gets the blame in the tri state region?

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Who is actually blaming him for it? I think Trump's biggest problem with all this is related to his need to be the center of attention. Also, his extreme partisan style is great for riling people up but doesn't lend itself well to this kind of situation. Can't be "red states" and "blue states" if you're in a national emergency.

But as far as blaming him for COVID-19 in general - or for it being particularly bad in some regions - that would be over top.

Still...if he inherited such as mess from Obama in 2016, he had several years to recognize it and address it.

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Ultimately, Trump as President is responsible for the country's pandemic planning and readiness. This includes national stockpiles and many other things. States and cities have responsibilities as well, but a lot is on the federal government in terms of public health preparedness and response leadership, systems, emergency funding, and other resources. There is an entire part of Dept of Health and Human Services devoted to this, with an Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response, as well as component agencies. The feds fund state and city health departments for preparedness and response and are supposed to ensure readiness as well as coordination in a national emergency.

The reality is, the federal government can't be solely responsible, but does have a major role. Trump has pulled out all sorts of nonsense, including saying that he "inherited a mess" from Obama. That isn't going to fly three and a half years into the job. And blaming governors and mayors is only going to get him so far.

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I read all of that and wondered, how many dead because of our stockpiles of ventilators and PPE?

According to governors, the answer is 0.

You do know that. Right?

The Fed cant shut down the country. Legally as it stands now, the federal government cant do it.

That is why every shut down (or non shut down) is at the state level.

Do you have a point in that post?
Do you need to rethink it or rephrase it?

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Do you have a point in that post?

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In his severe state of TDS, he forgot to say OMB

The "but Obama" excuse is as played out as the "but Hillary" retort whenever someone criticizes Trump. He's been president for three friggin' years. He's an idiot. I guarantee you he didn't even know about the national stockpile. The man doesn't read anything. He's had daily briefings read to him because he won't do it. His administration treats him like a child because that's how he acts.

It doesn't matter anyway because he said he accepts no responsibility, which isn't surprising considering he never has in his life. It's always someone else's fault. He's not even helping the states, so blaming Obama for the national stockpile is ridiculous. The federal government is stealing PPE equipment from the states that they have ordered themselves, and they've gotten no word from FEMA or the federal government about how they can get those supplies. Trump just put it off on the states to do it themselves, and when they did it, the feds started taking the supplies they ordered. In many cases it's been reported they are handing these supplies over to companies, I imagine in the name of the almighty dollar.

Trump has stood in the way of states getting PPE supplies. States are having to compete with one another and even with the federal government. Trump's incompetence knows no bounds.

The real question is how low can Trump go before people like you decide not to defend him. The man was running around playing golf and holding rallies while calling it a democratic hoax instead of preparing. Do I really need to pull that commercial out that he hates so much to prove his incompetence and stupidity, as well as his lack of preparedness?

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But, you know, Trump says stupid things sometimes. That is the really important take away.

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Trump doesn't just say stupid things, he does stupid things, like putting Jared Kushner in charge of anything. Like firing experts because he can't handle anyone not licking his arse every minute of the day. I can go on and on and on.

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The man was running around playing golf and holding rallies while calling it a democratic hoax instead of preparing.

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They have conveniently ignored this and reams of other facts about Trump's actions and character - both as President and previously.

Here's one of numerous examples: His turnover rate for members of his own administration - people that he appointed. Great study of this out. Tracking turnover in the Trump adminstration

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*In just 32 months, President Donald Trump's rate of change has surpassed "all of his predecessors who served four-year terms."

*The study found 51 of the 65 positions have turned over since Trump took office.

*Sixteen of those positions have turned over twice — or more, the study found.

*The A-Team [turnover] figures do not include Trump's Cabinet, where there's also been an unprecedented amount of tumult and turnover. Nine out of the 15 Cabinet positions that are in the presidential line of succession have turned over at least once, Tenpas found. That number surpasses the amount of change during entire first terms of Presidents Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama, and the one term of George H.W. Bush.

Now, let's just see what the rationalizations the Trumpists have for this... Hmmm...what can we come up with...Trump simply has vastly more demanding standards than any President in history??? Trump's just had some bad luck with some of his appointees??? The facts have been faked? The people tracking this information simply hate Trump? Any others?

This doesn't even get into how many people who were associated with Trump's campaign that were prosecuted and/or currently incarcerated...different topic and likely will have a different set of rationalizations (The corrupt, left-wing FBI? Fake collusion with Russia story concocted by liberals? The deep state?).

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New York is responsible for over 45% of the deaths in this country.

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we have 2 big problems

1. hospitals are getting paid by the federal government for Chinese Coronavirus deaths & cases, so MANY deaths/cases are being incorrectly classified s such, especially in NY
2. even though the numbers are being artificially inflated, our numbers are way too low

the actual facts are showing that closing down and committing economic suicide really has not made a big difference -- if grocery stores can operate, then so can any walk in business

WalMart, that sells more Chinese goods than any other retailer gets to thrive & the mom & pops are being killed

GA is lucky to have Kemp at the helm