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re: Kemp... Barbershops and gyms to open Friday...
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:41 pm to VADawg
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:41 pm to VADawg
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You're the one who seems to think this country won't skip a beat financially.
Who the frick said that? Did I say that? Nah, pretty sure I didn't.
I DO think you're going to regret rushing the reopening.
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:58 pm to S1C EM
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Same for mortgages.
Should have said rent.
I don't think i've seen anywhere where anybody has claimed things will be back to normal anytime soon. But it makes total sense for businesses, that are willing, to start the process back to normal.
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And the more you rush this process, the less sustainable normalcy you're going to have.
Based on what?
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"the economy is crashing and we all gotta go back to work or we're gonna die" rhetoric
this is trumped by far by "we have to shelter in place until we have a cure or we're gonna die" rhetoric
Posted on 4/22/20 at 3:54 pm to S1C EM
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Who the frick said that? Did I say that? Nah, pretty sure I didn't.
Your bullshite about wanting a prolonged shutdown says otherwise.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 3:55 pm to tgdawg68
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Should have said rent.
That may be fair. I really don't know how that will be handled for the landlord. If they have a mortgage, it's likely a little easier. If this is just straight profit for them, then not really sure how you deal with that.
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I don't think i've seen anywhere where anybody has claimed things will be back to normal anytime soon.
It's at least being implied because "everybody can go back to work". Everyone isn't going to get to go back to work because the business is simply not going to warrant it. A lot of folks will be disappointed.
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But it makes total sense for businesses, that are willing, to start the process back to normal.
I'm simply questioning the rationale that you can operate a barbershop or a bowling alley while observing mitigation measures. You simply cannot.
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Based on what?
Based on the fact that people already have shown that they cannot, or simply refuse to, follow guidelines. People will get to work for about two weeks, tops, before we see the results. If everyone has to get sent home again to start this process all over, that only serves to set us back. Think of it like this....you're sick. Doc gives you a 10-day course of antibiotics. You feel better by day 5. You quit taking the medicine. Three days later, you're right back to being sick again and having to restart the regimen; 10 more days. That's essentially what I believe we're going to see happen.
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this is trumped by far by "we have to shelter in place until we have a cure or we're gonna die" rhetoric
Maybe, maybe not. It's an argument to be had. I don't think we can wait on a vaccine (there will be no cure). But it would be helpful to have the current drugs in trials a little further along and to actually have declining new case numbers. I would like to get back to normal as much as anyone, I assure you. But that's going to be a while no matter what we do and I certainly don't want us to all go back and then be right back at home in a month or so and doing this whole damn dance all over again from the beginning. Remember.....people do not wash their hands. And we're now trusting them to follow social distancing and hygiene guidelines in order to reopen safely. People are careless, panicky and stupid. THere's just no way to see this going well.
Again, I would like to have seen us meet the minimum benchmarks for reopening before actually reopening. That's all.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 3:56 pm to VADawg
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Your bullshite about wanting a prolonged shutdown says otherwise.
Nope. But good luck. You're getting what you want and I hope it works out for you.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 3:57 pm to S1C EM
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I'm simply questioning the rationale that you can operate a barbershop or a bowling alley while observing mitigation measures. You simply cannot.
How about letting these businesses operate and letting the people decide if they want to go to a barbershop or bowling alley. If you don't want to go, stay home.
These draconian measures are all good if you want to live in the People's Republic of America.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:00 pm to VADawg
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How about letting these businesses operate and letting the people decide if they want to go to a barbershop or bowling alley.
Okay. And? We're all about to see.
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These draconian measures are all good if you want to live in the People's Republic of America.
Yes. They're out here plowing up the roads to my house now and standing outside my door with rifles to prevent my exit. fricking hyperbole much?
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:01 pm to S1C EM
When people are being arrested for taking their kids to a fricking park or to the beach, that is a problem to me.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:08 pm to VADawg
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When people are being arrested for taking their kids to a fricking park or to the beach, that is a problem to me.
Alright...just so we're clear...we are NOT in disagreement about that. You're veering waaaay off the tracks as this was never brought up, nor do I think this is happening in a significant number of places. There are some idiots out there. I get it. But that's not representative of the majority of places.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:47 pm to S1C EM
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Based on the fact that people already have shown that they cannot, or simply refuse to, follow guidelines.
I just don't see this. There are always people out there that are not going to follow the rules but I think the overwhelming majority of people are behaving. I see it at the grocery store or the convenience store where most people are respectful and very aware of keeping spacing and many have masks.
I already have a haircut appointment for Friday because I know my barber takes her profession seriously and I trust that she will have the proper sanitary protocols.
Maybe you need more faith in humanity.
I have reached my limit in front of a computer for the day but I did read earlier where you wife is quarantined. Hope it turns out OK.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:51 pm to S1C EM
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I'm simply questioning the rationale that you can operate a barbershop or a bowling alley while observing mitigation measures. You simply cannot.
But you're mitigating at a crowded Home Depot or Walmart?
BTW,my local HD has been packed the couple of times I've been the last month.Id take an outdoor cafe or a bowling alley any day over those places.
I just don't think the risks are any higher because of these measures especially with warmer weather coming on. (Just gotta be careful with churches especially in rural areas)
Posted on 4/22/20 at 5:24 pm to tgdawg68
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Maybe you need more faith in humanity.
Perhaps. I’ve met too many.........people.........in my life. But you’re probably right. If I thought the general public had the same level of common sense as most of the people here, it’d be different. Again, I hope I’m wrong. I do.
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I have reached my limit in front of a computer for the day but I did read earlier where you wife is quarantined. Hope it turns out OK.
Appreciate it. She got her results back today and was negative. Finally out of quarantine. It only took a week for test results.
Sorry if I offended anyone. As I said, I just think it would have been better to hit the benchmarks, then open. Hopefully all goes well as we move forward.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 5:27 pm to RD Dawg
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But you're mitigating at a crowded Home Depot or Walmart?
I’m not saying those are ideal. I’m just asking......who’s going to sanitize your shoes and your balls?
The cross contamination risk in a bowling alley is off the charts. quote:
I just don't think the risks are any higher because of these measures especially with warmer weather coming on. (Just gotta be careful with churches especially in rural areas)
As long as the measures are implemented and enforced, I don’t necessarily disagree. I totally agree on churches.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 5:32 pm to RD Dawg
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outdoor cafe or a bowling alley any day over those places.
Outdoor cafe is fine. Bowling alley makes no sense.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 5:48 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Outdoor cafe is fine. Bowling alley makes no sense.
A crowded Home Depot is?
BTW,a can't remember the last crowded bowling alley I went to.
How many cases/breakouts do you think can be traced back to a bowling alley?
Once again, mitigate those most at risk.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 6:12 pm to RD Dawg
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A crowded Home Depot is?
BTW,a can't remember the last crowded bowling alley I went to.
I do not think a crowded Home Depot should be open.
And it’s not the crowded part that worries me there. It’s the shoes and bowling balls being shared that concerns me.
FWIW, it concerns the President as well.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 6:42 pm to dawgfan24348
What if Kemp is the one who comes out of all this with light coming out of his eyes and mouth?
Will any of the naysayers admit they were wrong?
Will any of the naysayers admit they were wrong?
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:26 pm to Dawgsontop34
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do not think a crowded Home Depot should be open.
So what should be open? How bout a crowded Walmart?
Do we know that lockdowns really prevent the spread? No place has been under a tighter quarantine than LA County and a study suggest 100's of thousands infected
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:39 pm to RD Dawg
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So what should be open? How bout a crowded Walmart?
Your average Walmart can spread people out much more than an average hair salon. I actually just ventured out to Target for the first time since my wife was quarantined and I have to say, they are handling the process very well. Wiping down all the carts, baskets, screens and checkout areas. Clearly marked dots on the floor to keep people in line standing six feet apart. Plexiglass around the cashiers. Most people wearing masks. That’s the way to do it. Everybody just doesn’t have the real estate to make that work.
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