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I don’t know what pass interference is anymore

Posted on 10/9/19 at 6:09 am
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 6:09 am
I’ve been shocked with some of the no calls against our receivers the past two weeks. Honestly that’s bothered me more than it should.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:12 am to
Normally you get some of those calls, but I don't remember any really egregious no-calls. I need to go back and look at some of the ones from Tennessee.
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
1247 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:17 am to
No one know what pass interference is anymore, and no one knows what a catch is anymore, either. I think Cager or someone came down with what looked like a clean catch for a big play against UT that was overturned because there was a slight bobble as he pulled it in towards the sidelines. It's all completely arbitrary.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17463 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:25 am to
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that was overturned because there was a slight bobble as he pulled it in towards the sidelines


I don't think he had control of the ball before he hit the ground/went out of bounds, did he?
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9367 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:26 am to
I have been shocked at how much they are letting both sides get away with. Which, when they do call PI, feels arbitrary and sometimes based on the moment.

Cager for one is super handsy. Many of his recent touchdowns have come after a nice push off. Think we got called on it once. I guess the logic like holding is do what you can get away with until they start calling it.

I was surprised they didn’t call PI on the last ND play.

I still think I know what pass interference is. I just have no idea when they are gonna actually call it outside of purely blatant instances.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13163 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:41 am to
Agree. Our receivers are going to have to get more separation against the better teams in order to make a catch, otherwise, it appears the refs are allowing defenders to be draped all over receivers.
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
1247 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:52 am to
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I don't think he had control of the ball before he hit the ground/went out of bounds, did he?


That's the thing, the "had control" part. I don't really know what the means anymore. I've seen it interpreted so many different ways in college and NFL games over the last several years that the phrase has mostly lost all meaning. Before replay was a thing, there was rarely so much gray area in how a clean "catch" is interpreted.
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
1247 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:56 am to
It's kind of like targeting. Outside of the really egregious, obviously dirty hits, no one really knows what it is (or at least the refs frequently act like they don't).

"Did he launch?" "Did he lead with the crown of the helmet"? What?

A defender has to go low to get leverage on most tackles. Helmets sometimes makes contact. Especially when the ball carrier lowers his head. The interpretation of the rule allows for way too much gray area and subjectivity.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59611 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:28 am to
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I don't remember any really egregious no-calls.


Was it Pickens or Landers who got positively mugged in the EZ against ND?
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:50 am to
The correct call was made... it was not a catch. When he landed he didn't have a firm grasp on the ball anymore, he *regrabbed* it, but he was already out of bounds at that point... I no more want that ball to be a catch for us than I want it to be a catch for anyone else... There are plenty of "close calls" and thankfully replay generally helps sort those out more often than not. Unlike say the offsides call on Tyler Simmons in the NCG...

People who complain about targeting this year must not have been paying attention last year. Last year, there were people getting ejected for calls that objectively weren't targeting. This year, despite flags getting thrown, how many ejections for targeting have there actually been. They probably went the wrong direction giving a bit too much leniency. This is why many of us were arguing for 5/15 variations, or a targeting with vs without ejection. The blindside block + targeting for Tennessee was stupid... because they ONLY called targeting, the blindside block was ignored and the flag was picked up. I think there is plenty to still work out on targeting, but it's better this year and hopefully will continue to improve all while training players to at least attempt to not use their own skulls as battering rams, or knock other peoples heads off...
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:50 am to
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It's kind of like targeting.


Replay official are reversing targeting more this season then ever before, which is a good thing.
But there needs to be a few targeting calls on offensive players when they lower their head on a defender. I actually saw one of those called in some minor west coast game a few weeks ago.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3940 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:06 am to
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the "had control" part.
If you're talking about Cager's catch at UT, he didn't have control in any sense of the word until he was out of bounds.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42474 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:22 am to
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I think Cager or someone came down with what looked like a clean catch for a big play against UT that was overturned because there was a slight bobble as he pulled it in towards the sidelines.


You have to possess the ball fully, in bounds, with no bobble. There are a couple things that we could complain about. This is not one of them. Was clearly incomplete.

Also, there’s a lot of complaining about the refs right now in games we’re winning. There was probably one egregious PI against Pickens but outside of that it hasn’t been that bad.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:36 am to
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was surprised they didn’t call PI on the last ND play.



That never gets called in college. They dont reward hail marys into double and triple coverage for creating contact.

quote:

Cager for one is super handsy. Many of his recent touchdowns have come after a nice push off. Think we got called on it once. I guess the logic like holding is do what you can get away with until they start calling it.


The officials ask if the contact gives the player an advantage. Unfortunately, there is the Shaq effect. Big players dont get calls as often when a penalty is committed by a smaller player. And conversely, #20 on UT was looking to drop calls. He flopped at the slightest contact and his helmet came off 3 times in the game.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:38 am to
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you're talking about Cager's catch at UT, he didn't have control in any sense of the word until he was out of bounds.



Semantics. But it looked like he had control until his elbow hit. Then he had to regain control, but he was already out of bounds. Both college and nfl require maintaining control through the ground on a reception. Incompletion was a good call from the booth.
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
1247 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:42 am to
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The correct call was made... it was not a catch. When he landed he didn't have a firm grasp on the ball anymore, he *regrabbed* it, but he was already out of bounds at that point


Fair enough. I'm going purely on memory from the Cager catch and could definitely be wrong. I've just seen several catches the last few seasons that have looked totally clean that get overturned on review (or vice-versa). It may be more of an NFL phenomenon than college, though, to be honest.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 11:56 am to
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I don’t know what pass interference is anymore


Whatever the ref calling it says it is. Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 12:01 pm to
I've seen a couple of phantom PI calls on UGA. Obviously you get some and give some when it comes to questionable penalties, but for the most part we've gotten the short end of the stick so far.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 5:28 pm to
I've seen many no-calls this season where both the WR and the DB are pushing hands off their bodies. As long as the official doesn't see any grabbing of arms or jerseys they are allowing lots of action. Makes the game more fun to watch.
This post was edited on 10/9/19 at 5:29 pm
Posted by E.Hubble
Athens
Member since Jul 2013
1720 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:51 pm to
Pickens vs ND - gets mugged in the EZ, no call
Landers vs UT- gets punched in the EZ by #20, called for hands to the face against UGA
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