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re: Fire Richt

Posted on 11/1/14 at 11:48 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41658 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 11:48 pm to
There's a difference between accepting reality and being satisfied with it.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 11:49 pm to
It's not that we are satisfied with it. It's just that some of us think it's a lot more involved than just replacing the HC. It goes deeper than that.
Posted by GeorgiaFlyer
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2014
1618 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 11:50 pm to
Fire his arse! 2 weeks to prepare and this crap!
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41658 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 11:56 pm to
You know, you're right.

Fire him now. Don't wait until the end of the season.

We should also fire Bobo for not being able to move the ball down the field with noodle-arm Mason and then fire Pruitt for not living up to the hype.

Clean house and pull scholarships for everyone involved in this embarrassment of a game.

Euthanize Russ and start a new line. Burn the Hairy Dawg costume and destroy the hedges. Change our school colors while we're at it. Everything is tainted and we need to just start over.

Let's put an end to this sham of Georgia football and start fresh. We'll have a NC in a few years if we do all of that.
This post was edited on 11/1/14 at 11:58 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14166 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 11:58 pm to
You guys do realize that it would be pretty easy to find a coach that could not win a Conf Championship for 9 years right?

Your acting like if we lose Richt we're losing the golden goose. He really hasn't put shite in the trophy case since 2005 unless you count the East.
Posted by Dawgnational
Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
690 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 12:03 am to
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Your acting like if we lose Richt we're losing the golden goose. He really hasn't put shite in the trophy case since 2005 unless you count the East. 


We have always been a mediocre program and lets not pretend we are anything more. Without CMR, our previous SEC champship was in 1982 under Vince Dooley. So tell me... CMR is not a golden goos?
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 12:04 am to
We can go much much lower than not having a conference championship. Tennessee just hopes for the year they can get in a bowl game again.

And I'm not saying you shouldn't fire a coach because there's the chance your new hire won't win a NC. But I do think you should only fire the coach when you're convinced that he is the problem and that replacing him will fix your problem. And I don't think replacing Richt would change it.
Posted by BloodRunsRed&Black
Dalton, GA
Member since Oct 2004
520 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 12:09 am to
Well yeah, if the AD isn't on board with the importance of championships, then changing coaches won't matter... but then Richt wouldn't be fired in the first place. So, getting rid of Richt would signal mindset changes on multiple levels, which is why so many of us are hoping it happens.

If they don't have the stones, then frick 'em.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 12:30 am to
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We have always been a mediocre program and lets not pretend we are anything more. Without CMR, our previous SEC champship was in 1982 under Vince Dooley. So tell me... CMR is not a golden goos?



Bronze goose in a good year, tinfoil goose in a bad one. We're a Formula Two car on the Formula One circuit.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 4:21 am to
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You guys do realize that it would be pretty easy to find a coach that could not win a Conf Championship for 9 years right?


It would also be just as easy to find a Derek Dooley
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:57 am to
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and then a bible beating


Do you have a problem with him being a Christian, or with his coaching. because in this thread you just keep bringing up that he is a Christian. Oh, and saying stuff you know isn't true. If you want him fired, that is your perogative. I can understand that. but why keep bringing up his faith? That's just dumb.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17474 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 6:00 am to
We could also end up with a Ray Goff...
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 6:23 am to
The only reason to get rid of a known commodity in an employee is if you can reasonably expect an upgrade. Like it or not there is simply no reason to think that anyone who would come to UGA who we would have would win at a higher level than Mark Richt and not embarrass the program off the field. All you gotta do is look to Knoxville to see why Richt ain't going nowhere. UGA simply is not nor have we ever been an elite program. We are a very sound program who no one takes lightly most years when they see us on their schedule. With the new playoff system we have as good a shot at winning a natty as any program. As bad as we want a dominating team that wins em all we just aren't that program. Never have been.

Is there a strong chance that we can upgrade with a new coach? If so by all means terminate Richts arse. If it is a crap shoot OR at best a lateral move why take the risk? The Tennessees of the world are much more common than the Auburns.....especially when you aren't willing to win at any cost.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 6:29 am to
Smart person. We should euthanize half the people on this board. They are all very "Alabama" versions of our fan base.
Posted by Glory, Glory
Pawleys Island, SC
Member since Nov 2012
4498 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 6:31 am to
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It would also be just as easy to find a Derek Dooley


Agreed. However, we need new blood. It’s time to swing for the fences or accept our fate (9-3 seasons). I’m all for taking chances. If Richt can’t get it done, which we all know he can’t, let’s bring in someone new. What’s it going to hurt? We haven’t won a SECCG in a decade. You don’t get a trophy for finishing in the top 25 every year


Just so we’re clear, I’ve always supported Richt. Every time I’ve dealt with him, he was cordial and a great guy. But he shits the bed once or twice a year. When will it be enough underachieving for our fanbase?
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 6:33 am to
Because

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The only reason to get rid of a known commodity in an employee is if you can reasonably expect an upgrade. Like it or not there is simply no reason to think that anyone who would come to UGA who we would have would win at a higher level than Mark Richt and not embarrass the program off the field. All you gotta do is look to Knoxville to see why Richt ain't going nowhere. UGA simply is not nor have we ever been an elite program. We are a very sound program who no one takes lightly most years when they see us on their schedule. With the new playoff system we have as good a shot at winning a natty as any program. As bad as we want a dominating team that wins em all we just aren't that program. Never have been.

Is there a strong chance that we can upgrade with a new coach? If so by all means terminate Richts arse. If it is a crap shoot OR at best a lateral move why take the risk? The Tennessees of the world are much more common than the Auburns.....especially when you aren't willing to win at any cost.


There is NO reason to expect anyone we could hire right now would be an upgrade, much less hold together the awesome recruiting classes we have right now. Yall are peddling this fire Richt yada yada like we are Alabama and Bill Belichik is gonna be knocking on the door begging to come here. Jesus Christ.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 6:38 am to
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Men the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results, pretty much what we have been doing for years now. Not saying fire Richt but if he continues as Coach you should never expect a National Championship.


This is a common definition of insanity but is it the continuing to do the same thing or the unrealistic expectations that makes us crazy? We have played football for 110+ years and have won one real natty and a couple of others that were also won by other teams. Fielding a team at UGA and expecting to win a national title would be like going to take a dump and expecting a unicorn to fly out of your arse. Odds are against you. It is INSANE for us to expect to win a natty every August. Being a fanatic is the definition of being a fan and as such we are entitled to unrealistic expectations. It is the job of administrators and program management to set acceptable expectations for the program and competing for the SEC east year in and year out is a pretty lofty goal that at least half of the SEC would love to have a realistic chance of doing.

Losing sucks. We are notorious for shitting the bed at least once a year. But at least some of that fecal matter comes from our unrealistic expectations which we are entitled to as fanatics but should have no bearing on who is coaching this program. Again UT reacted to the expectations of fanatics and they have paid for it dearly.
Posted by Glory, Glory
Pawleys Island, SC
Member since Nov 2012
4498 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 6:40 am to
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td01241


Let me start by saying, I value your opinion as a ranter...

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There is NO reason to expect anyone we could hire right now would be an upgrade


UGA is a top 5-7 program in the nation. We really don’t know who would be interested in the job, but I can assure you that we’d have a nice list of candidates. Would they be upgrades? Maybe not on paper, but on the field is a remain to be seen situation.

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hold together the awesome recruiting classes we have right now.


We’ve had top recruiting class for 10+ years. We haven’t won anything worth mentioning since 2007. I doubt a recruiting class is going to change anything. We are full of 4 star and 5 star players, but the results remain the same.

Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 6:45 am to
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What’s it going to hurt?


It could be disastrous
This post was edited on 11/2/14 at 6:46 am
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 6:47 am to
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UGA is a top 5-7 program in the nation.


I just dont think that is true. Alabama, Oklahoma, USC, Notre Dame, Florida, Texas, Florida State and a lot of others you could make an argument for as better programs than us.

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We really don’t know who would be interested in the job, but I can assure you that we’d have a nice list of candidates.


I agree the list will be long, but that doesn't make them better than Richt. New is not always better.

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Would they be upgrades? Maybe not on paper, but on the field is a remain to be seen situation.


I think the only person we could make a realistic play at that would be possibly better than Richt and definitely maintain a high level of competitiveness we have enjoyed under Richt, would be Dantonio.

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We’ve had top recruiting class for 10+ years.


If I understand it right, the recruiting classes over the next two years could be the best we have had in 15+ years.

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We haven’t won anything worth mentioning since 2007. I doubt a recruiting class is going to change anything.


Look at Ole Miss defense under 1 good recruiting class and less coaching than UGA.

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We are full of 4 star and 5 star players


So is almost every team we play.
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