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Whiznot
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
It looks like there might be an attempt to run a stupid conspiracy to make the numbers look better than they are.

The separation of the CDC from data compilation is suspicious given Trump's mindset. Cases that we don't know about, well those cases don't exist as far as Trump is concerned.


chillmonster
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
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It looks like there might be an attempt to run a stupid conspiracy to make the numbers look better than they are.

The separation of the CDC from data compilation is suspicious given Trump's mindset. Cases that we don't know about, well those cases don't exist as far as Trump is concerned.




We all know the president wants less testing to show lower numbers, but in this political climate I highly doubt Alex Azar would purposely deflate numbers or flat out lie. If that happens, someone will leak the real numbers immediately. At most we'll see delays in reporting.

No point in going down the conspiracy wormhole. Logic dictates the numbers will still be a decent enough representation to compare and form a solid picture of how we're doing.


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Floyd Dawg
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
Considering several Florida clinics deliberately fudged their numbers to make things seem worse than they actually are, I can understand why you might feel that way.


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DawgCountry
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
Never change

DRUMPF!!!


AirbusDawg
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
I know this to be true, if you test positive for the Virus, you cannot be tested again until 14 days. So the person on here that is saying the same person got tested everyday and kept getting a positive which lead to 10 positives is not telling the truth. I know from first hand experience. Unless your a celebrity or a professional athlete, you're not getting tested everyday.


Dawg4Life47
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
The cumulative chart shows 10 positives, showing that amount for 1 person is incorrect no matter how you slice it.

It's not apple and oranges unless you don't know what you are talking about and clearly you do not.

This is an aggregate site of CDC and WHO that shows daily change. If I continue to add to the daily total with positives its a rolling effect on the numbers.

CDC-WHO Aggregate

If nothing else it keeps your narrative of remaining shutdown going.

This post was edited on 7/17 at 8:23 am


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Dawg4Life47
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
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I know this to be true, if you test positive for the Virus, you cannot be tested again until 14 days. So the person on here that is saying the same person got tested everyday and kept getting a positive which lead to 10 positives is not telling the truth. I know from first hand experience. Unless your a celebrity or a professional athlete, you're not getting tested everyday.


Incorrect...and we do have access to daily testing based on the nature of our business. You don't have to be a celebrity or athlete.


RealDawg
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
This does happen (as well as people testing negative daily or weekly) but in no way equates to the increases. The infected rate nationally has indeed doubled.

The death rate lags by 18 days or so for obvious reasons. It has in fact been increasing and directly matching the rate % increase.


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deeprig9
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
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I know this to be true, if you test positive for the Virus, you cannot be tested again until 14 days. So the person on here that is saying the same person got tested everyday and kept getting a positive which lead to 10 positives is not telling the truth. I know from first hand experience. Unless your a celebrity or a professional athlete, you're not getting tested everyday.


False. My wife has been tested three times in three weeks. Gwinnett county.


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AirbusDawg
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
Why then, did I test positive last week and I cannot get another test for 15 days after that test? Gwinnett County by the way.
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DawgRff
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
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Considering several Florida clinics deliberately fudged their numbers to make things seem worse than they actually are, I can understand why you might feel that way.

Link?


Whiznot
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
Because your wife tested negative she can be retested. The limitation applies to positive tests.


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Whiznot
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
AirbusDawg, I hope you get well soon. How are you doing?


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VADawg
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
LINK

LINK

Time to start firing and arresting people for this shite.
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deeprig9
Member since Sep 2012
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
ok everyone, I finally got my shite sorted out.

1- the way I do my calculations is due to how GA DPH was originally reporting this all the way back in March. they have changed, multiple times, the way they report and/or display or otherwise communicate the daily numbers. the way I do my daily update may not make sense based on how DPH reports today, but if you saw how they were originally reporting, it would make more sense. If I were to have updated how I do my calculations each time DPH updated how/what they communicate, my timelines would be comparing apples and oranges. If this were my full time job, I would have multiple workborks going for this, but I don't.


2- I forgot what number two was.


Here's my calcs...

A = Today's new running total of all tests minus yesterday's running total = daily new test results.

B = today's new running total of all cases minus yesterday's running total = daily new positive tests.

Today's % of positive tests= B/A

[i realize the DPH page now gives this number[s], but in the beginning I had to formulate this in excel]


Today DPH displays clearly 3908 "new cases" which matches exactly my formula, so I'm still on the same page with DPH.


Yesterday's screenshot, followed by today's screenshot:












I cna't tell you how DPH squares that center column being different from the top left number of daily new confirmed cases. You'd have to take that up with them.


meansonny
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
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Alright. Let's test your theory.

For tomorrow, predict the total pcr/molecular tests.

Will it be 1178222 plus 23239?
Or will it be a lesser number that cuts out duplicates.

For tomorrow, predict the total number of positive tests?
Will it be 119761 plus 3441?
Or 119761 plus 3446?

We've got a good opportunity to test your theory.


So on the DPH website, the total PCR/Molecular tests are less than yesterday's test for the day plus the prior total number of tests.

The total number of PCT/Molecular positives is less than yesterday's PCE/molecular positives plus the prior number of total positives.



What does this mean?
It means that the daily report for tests and positives includes individuals who have already tested and already tested positive.
The tabulation is currently sophisticated enough to avoid "double-counting" those numbers in the cumulative totals. However when the media blasts daily numbers in an attempt to shock its audience, they are being disingenuous because it does include those positive people trying to get their first negative since being infected.


meansonny
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
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Today DPH displays clearly 3908 "new cases" which matches exactly my formula, so I'm still on the same page with DPH


What is that formula again?

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 cna't tell you how DPH squares that center column being different from the top left number of daily new confirmed cases. You'd have to take that up with them.


The center number (3279 daily positive pcr/molecular) is the aggregate number of positive tests for the day. As was pointed out, this number includes already positive individuals retesting.

The 3908 daily confirmed cases is a combination of pcr first time positives plus daily serology (antibody) positives. The daily serology testing is not shown in the website. Just the aggregate number.


deeprig9
Member since Sep 2012
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
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What is that formula again?



Today's big red number minus yesterday's big red number. Seems dumb today but in the beginning this took more calculating to arrive at.


meansonny
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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave
No worries.

The 3908 is based on the first time PCR/molecular positive tests (not listed on the site) plus the daily serology positives (also not listed on the site).

As you have confirmed, that 3908 on top of yesterday's total confirmed leads to today's total confirmed.


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