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re: Covid-19 in Georgia: The Second Wave

Posted on 7/16/20 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 2:46 pm to
Case totals are tabulated by patient name and social security number. There should be no duplications.

The case total isn't a sum of all the daily positive tests. The daily test record is disassociated from patient identity.

Tests are one thing. Patients are something else entirely.

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63853 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 2:47 pm to
Speaking of testing clusterfricks...

My wife got a test 11 days ago due to contact with positive coworker, and still doesn't have the result back.

11 days to get a result is unacceptable. What's the fricking point.

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63853 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 2:48 pm to
Whiznot, that is not true in the GA DPH data. I wish it was, but it isn't.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6995 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

That times a couple hundred or more people being tested daily can sku the heck out of stats


No it cannot. You are not understanding what is being measured. Think about it.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63853 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 2:51 pm to
Whiznot, you are still wrong. I have been tracking the ga dph data straight off their site since March. New positive test = new case, in their own words and nomenclature.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25540 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 2:57 pm to
The numbers dont match today.

The daily confirmed cases are less than new test positives and significantly less than antibody positives.
Only 25% of that sum hit the daily confirmed cases.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63853 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

The numbers dont match today.

The daily confirmed cases are less than new test positives and significantly less than antibody positives.
Only 25% of that sum hit the daily confirmed cases.


False.

"New Cases" = 3441 today. Let's see how DPH gets to that number.

Total PCR plus Total Serology = 1,369,484

Yesterday that number was 1342006 ( didn't screenshot it yesterday, but I will tomorrow so you can see today's compared to tomorrows to better illustrate this. But it is in my spreadsheet).

1369484 minus 1342006 = 3441.







Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25540 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:16 pm to
I'm pretty sure you aren't doing that correctly.

What does the difference in total tests today minus the total tests yesterday tell you?

It says nothing about positives. Only the number of tests completed the prior day.

Are you phrasing your point wrong?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63853 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:18 pm to
Look closer.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25540 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:18 pm to
Per your screenshot, there are 3466 positive tests today. That alone is more than total cases today.

Add 3466 plus 10071 positive for antibodies, and the 3411 confirmed daily cases is only 25% of that number.

You might need to restate your formula.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63853 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:20 pm to
Under the big red number, see the new case number. 3441

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25540 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:21 pm to
For starters

1369484 minus 1342006 equals 27,478.
Not 3441.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63853 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:24 pm to
If you follow and record it daily you'd understand why I X out that middle part. It will make more sense to you with tomorrow's screenshot.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25540 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:26 pm to
I see the math that you are trying to share.

129832 total positives plus 10071 antibody positives equals 129832.

133274 (yesterday's positive cases) minus 129832 is 3443.

I get it. There is no conspiracy when working cumulative numbers from 1 day to the next.

Dont you see that 3443 is less than the positive cases for today 3466? And that doesnt even take into account any antibody positives today that aren't illustrated on the site.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63853 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:26 pm to
Thats right, haste error. That number is new tests overall, positive plus negative. I left off the additional calculation. I am not on desktop now so I can't illustrate, maybe later.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25540 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:31 pm to
Alright. Let's test your theory.

For tomorrow, predict the total pcr/molecular tests.

Will it be 1178222 plus 23239?
Or will it be a lesser number that cuts out duplicates.

For tomorrow, predict the total number of positive tests?
Will it be 119761 plus 3441?
Or 119761 plus 3446?

We've got a good opportunity to test your theory.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 3:32 pm
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:58 pm to


Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6995 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 4:08 pm to
Reporting units are instructed to submit both test data and case data. Our healthcare system is so fragmented that errors are inevitable. Reporting units are still having to send data by fax machine.

Check out the link below. Louisiana had to go back and correct some reporting data to eliminate duplicates. Every case is supposed to be a unique individual.

LDH reports 48,515 total COVID-19 cases after removing duplicates and out-of-state residents
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 4:19 pm to
For the same reason we shouldn't represent ourselves in court, we have to stop thinking we're smarter than professionals who do this for a living. There's no stupid political conspiracy to inflate the numbers.

What would be the point of double counting? It makes the data less usable.
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