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Hugh McElroy
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread


Ag_16
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
I’ve learned not to doubt this staff! They know what they are doing.


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NanosTacoRun
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
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Jimbo is clearly recruiting much better than Sumlin at the end of his tenure, but the point inflation going on with recruiting ratings make this sort of comparison pointless.

In 2015 and 2016 combined, only 2 classes had an average above 93.0. In 2021 alone, 5 schools topped 93.0, 3 topped 94.0 and Alabama topped 95


WestCoastAg
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
Talent is becoming more and more centralized. The class we just had would have finished like 2nd a couple years ago. Now we have to fight off USC to finish 7th with an outside shot of finishing 6th
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Hugh McElroy
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
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In 2015 and 2016 combined, only 2 classes had an average above 93.0. In 2021 alone, 5 schools topped 93.0, 3 topped 94.0 and Alabama topped 95


That doesn’t show inflation necessarily. It shows that more and more talent nationally is going to fewer and fewer school. Glad we’ve become one of them!


Ag_16
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
I think that’s just the nature of being in Texas. Everyone is trying to come and take talent out of here


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NanosTacoRun
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
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That doesn’t show inflation necessarily. It shows that more and more talent nationally is going to fewer and fewer school.

7 classes average 90+ in 2015
10 in 2016
13 in 2021

14 classes average 89+ in 2015
13 in 2016
17 in 2021

Across the board, class averages are going up. Again, Jimbo is really good at recruiting, and this isn't a knock on what he's been able to accomplish. But I think there's plenty of good evidence that the year-by-year avg comparison is not worth much, especially when all of our peers are, on average, experiencing the same bump.

If there's no measurable standard to provide context year to year, then the year to year comparison is essentially meaningless
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NanosTacoRun
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
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Talent is becoming more and more centralized. The class we just had would have finished like 2nd a couple years ago. Now we have to fight off USC to finish 7th with an outside shot of finishing 6th


Sure, there's always differing levels of talent monopolization taking place, but the class total point values could be suffering from point inflation so I don't think this point about class totals equaling 2nd vs 7th means anything in a vacuum.

I don't believe it's published how they calculate class totals, but if every recruit is seeing a tiny bump, I would assume that translates to class totals creeping up as well.
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Hugh McElroy
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
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7 classes average 90+ in 2015
10 in 2016
13 in 2021

14 classes average 89+ in 2015
13 in 2016
17 in 2021


Again, that doesn’t demonstrate that there has been an increase in the average or median player ranking.


Farmer1906
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
Take the rankings avg for every school and total it. Or maybe look at the median each year.


Hugh McElroy
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
Yep. There might be grade inflation. I don’t know. But pointing out that the top schools are averaging a higher and higher graded player doesn’t by itself show grade inflation.


Farmer1906
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
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Sonny Shipp is saying the decision will be on Friday. And he thinks LSU is on the outside looking in.


It’s us right? Can Bama fit him in?


WestCoastAg
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
If true, then it's us. Bama doesn't have the room and it sounds like LSU is more interested in taking some transfers than adding another receiver


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RoscoeHarper
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
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Yep. There might be grade inflation. I don’t know. But pointing out that the top schools are averaging a higher and higher graded player doesn’t by itself show grade inflation


Got curious so I did 15 mins of research... here is the total # of 4 and 5-star players in 247 composite for the past 10 years:

2021 - 361 (34 5-stars)
2020 - 373 (32)
2019 - 385 (34)
2018 - 376 (29)
2017 - 339 (33)
2016 - 342 (26)
2015 - 342 (37)
2014 - 329 (33)
2013 - 365 (35)
2012 - 394 (38)

Based on these numbers, I'd agree its not so much grade inflation, as it is a consolidation of talent to the top teams. Just to put into perspective, Bama signed 20% of all 5-stars in the country this year. No wonder they set an all time high points total.


AggieHank86
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
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here is the total # of 4 and 5-star players in 247 composite for the past 10 years:
Interesting data. Thanks for the legwork.


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NanosTacoRun
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
Here are the ratings for the top 500 recruits, 2015 vs 2021, with a best fit line used to smooth out the data

Once you get past #150, there's a pretty clear bias developing towards the 2021 ratings

Image: https://i.imgur.com/qv9imLp_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium


NanosTacoRun
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
Zooming in on the #150-500 range, the bias is a little clearer. Functionally, it's like bumping up every recruit 20-50 spots depending where on the curve you are if you move them from 2015 to 2021

Image: https://i.imgur.com/HotbaQN.png
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Farmer1906
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
So basically they’re giving fewer shitty ratings. If anything that should help the mid tier classes and have little effect the top ones.

Edit: just realized you said top 150. So it will effect all classes. Inflation is real then.
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NanosTacoRun
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
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Inflation is real then.

Yes, look at the last chart and then assume your recruiting class consists of 7 players, ranked:

#151
#201
#251
#301
#351
#401
#451

If you signed the exact same class in 2015 and 2021, your class average is going to be noticeably higher in 2021.


RoscoeHarper
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re: Official 2021 This Century is old enough to drink Recruiting Thread
Still don't know if its that simple. 2012-2013 seem to buck that trend. I haven't gone back further than that.


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