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Winners and Losers in this Expansion.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:33 pm
And I'm talking from a win/loss perspective, not monetarilly.
Huge Winner:
Texas
Texas needs the credibility of playing in the SEC in order to shore up recruiting stop the slide into mediocrity. The best kids in Texas want to play against the best. Now they can do that and play at Texas
SEC play will show Texas how weak and soft they have become so that they can do what is necessary to win.
Winner:
Arkansas
Arkansas needs to reconnect with the Texas Football scene in order to recapture past glories.
Big Losers:
Texas A&M. To be the lone Texas University in the greatest conference would have been grand. Would have been. There goes your recruiting pitch right down the drain.
Loser:
Oklahoma
Champions six years in a row. Solid, good talent. Not enough depth for the SEC gauntlet. Every few years they will slip in due to the twelve team format.
Georgia
Bama to the east.
Florida
Bama to the east
Neutral:
All the rest
Bama will basically play in a similar division and continue to roll. Their recruiting will be unaffected because of, well you know, who they are.
Auburn will move to the east and continue the slow inevitable decline triggered by Malzhan's termination.
LSU. This does nothing but hurt LSU in recruiting. They are now just one of several solid programs out west, and their recruiting will suffer. However, the Bama move to the east will definitely lift moral and keep hope alive.
The others unmentioned continue to be irrelevant.
Huge Winner:
Texas
Texas needs the credibility of playing in the SEC in order to shore up recruiting stop the slide into mediocrity. The best kids in Texas want to play against the best. Now they can do that and play at Texas
SEC play will show Texas how weak and soft they have become so that they can do what is necessary to win.
Winner:
Arkansas
Arkansas needs to reconnect with the Texas Football scene in order to recapture past glories.
Big Losers:
Texas A&M. To be the lone Texas University in the greatest conference would have been grand. Would have been. There goes your recruiting pitch right down the drain.
Loser:
Oklahoma
Champions six years in a row. Solid, good talent. Not enough depth for the SEC gauntlet. Every few years they will slip in due to the twelve team format.
Georgia
Bama to the east.
Florida
Bama to the east
Neutral:
All the rest
Bama will basically play in a similar division and continue to roll. Their recruiting will be unaffected because of, well you know, who they are.
Auburn will move to the east and continue the slow inevitable decline triggered by Malzhan's termination.
LSU. This does nothing but hurt LSU in recruiting. They are now just one of several solid programs out west, and their recruiting will suffer. However, the Bama move to the east will definitely lift moral and keep hope alive.
The others unmentioned continue to be irrelevant.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:35 pm to RiverCityTider
Winner: ESPN
Loser: Fox
Loser: Fox
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:35 pm to RiverCityTider
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Huge Winner:
Only if they "Win".
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:36 pm to RiverCityTider
Should be a win for Arkansas in the recruiting department I would think.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:37 pm to CauleyHog
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Should be a win for Arkansas in the recruiting department I would think.
I agree 100%. I think you can make the argument that this helps Arkansas more than anyone..
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:37 pm to tk for tu juan
quote:for real though.
Winner: ESPN
Loser: Fox
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:39 pm to CauleyHog
I think so Get some of the old swagger back.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:50 pm to RiverCityTider
quote:
Winners and Losers in this Expansion.
And I'm talking from a win/loss perspective, not monetarilly.
Huge Winner:
Texas
Texas needs the credibility of playing in the SEC in order to shore up recruiting stop the slide into mediocrity. The best kids in Texas want to play against the best. Now they can do that and play at Texas
SEC play will show Texas how weak and soft they have become so that they can do what is necessary to win.
Winner:
Arkansas
Arkansas needs to reconnect with the Texas Football scene in order to recapture past glories.
Big Losers:
Texas A&M. To be the lone Texas University in the greatest conference would have been grand. Would have been. There goes your reciting pitch right down the drain.
Loser:
Oklahoma
Champions six years in a row. Solid, good talent. Not enough depth for the SEC gauntlet. Every few years they will slip in due to the twelve team format.
Georgia
Bama to the east.
Florida
Bama to the east
Neutral:
All the rest
Bama will basically play in a similar division and continue to roll. Their recruiting will be unaffected because of, well you know, who they are.
Auburn will move to the east and continue the slow inevitable decline triggered by Malzhan's termination.
LSU. This does nothing but hurt LSU in recruiting. They are now just one of several solid programs out west, and their recruiting will suffer. However, the Bama move to the east will definitely lift moral and keep hope alive.
The others unmentioned continue to be irrelevant.
RiverCityTider:
Interesting perspective. I think it doesn't hurt LSU as much, only at the margins. Last 5 recruiting classes, LSU has signed a total of 17 players from Texas. 1 of them, Grant Delpit was born in New Orleans and was part of the families that evacuated back during Katrina. So about 3 a year on average.
As long as LA HS football doesn't stop playing at a high level, LSU will be ok. The only coach that has shown that he can come in and get LA recruits in battles with LSU is Saban. Not that he gets them all but he has signed some good players from here.
Texas A&M has Jimbo who coached here for 7 years from 2000 to 2007, knows the HS football landscape here better than anyone save Coach O and Saban and he hasn't done much here in LA.
We have replaced Bama and Florida with Texas and OU. Texas A&M is a wash because we are still in the West with them and Auburn is now East.
Texas, OU and Texas A&M are the rosters that are > 50% Texas natives. Who among those 3 will get the majority of the 4/5 Stars in Texas, who will be 2nd, and who will be 3rd is where the shake out will happen.
I do agree with you about Arkansas, they will get 2 games in the Texas footprint with their 2 biggest old SWC rivals, that could help them out, no doubt.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:53 pm to RiverCityTider
Actually Jimbo has been recruiting outside of Texas well, and once this move is done every decent TCU, Baylor and Texas Tech player will go to the SEC. It will balance out.
It just sucks Texas and OU can run their mouths about the SEC for a decade and then everyone forgets that the moment they want in.
It just sucks Texas and OU can run their mouths about the SEC for a decade and then everyone forgets that the moment they want in.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:58 pm to RiverCityTider
I don't see any way in the world this helps my beloved Razorbacks. Will make football recruiting in Texas and Oklahoma that much more difficult.
As for the other sports, no big deal.
As for the other sports, no big deal.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:59 pm to cardboardboxer
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Winners and Losers in this Expansion.
Actually Jimbo has been recruiting outside of Texas well, and once this move is done every decent TCU, Baylor and Texas Tech player will go to the SEC. It will balance out.
It just sucks Texas and OU can run their mouths about the SEC for a decade and then everyone forgets that the moment they want in.
So what you are saying is that MIZZOU, Ole Miss and MISS. State in addition to Arkansas will capitalize on having more of a footprint in Texas and those better TCU, Baylor and Texas Tech players are going to start signing with those schools and their rosters will improve as well.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:00 pm to RiverCityTider
Losers: The SEC
You won't have 6 weeks to prepare for our high-powered offense.
You won't have 6 weeks to prepare for our high-powered offense.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:00 pm to cardboardboxer
Biggest losers: ok st, TCU, Baylor, Tx tech.
Arkansas and mizzou will poach the top of their recruiting classes, largely out of DFW and east texas.
Most of those players aren’t going to OU, texas or TAMU anyway bc they are depth there and starters at the 4 names above
Arkansas and mizzou will poach the top of their recruiting classes, largely out of DFW and east texas.
Most of those players aren’t going to OU, texas or TAMU anyway bc they are depth there and starters at the 4 names above
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:01 pm to RiverCityTider
How can you say Bama is not a loser in this event ? You might not see it as long as Saban is the coach, but it will dilute their power when those two join. The big winner is that it opens up recruiting in TX for other SEC teams. Saban already recruits TX. It is good they are not resisting it, I guess money is a big draw. But Bama fans think it is Bama and not Saban that is the draw.
OU is a winner because it opens them up East of the Mississippi.
AU is a winner because it opens back their rivalry with UF, UT, and continues with UGA. We lose LSU off the schedule.
OU is a winner because it opens them up East of the Mississippi.
AU is a winner because it opens back their rivalry with UF, UT, and continues with UGA. We lose LSU off the schedule.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:02 pm to JKChesterton
Probably. I could also see the Junior college scene in Texas get built up more to get more talent on the field.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:03 pm to RiverCityTider
Huge loser:
Bama. Now that everyone can pay players, athletes won't have to live in that shithole located in East Mississippi we call Tuscaloosa.
Bama. Now that everyone can pay players, athletes won't have to live in that shithole located in East Mississippi we call Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:05 pm to RiverCityTider
Bama is a loser in this. They will no longer be the dominant SEC power.
Their recruiting pipeline from Texas will slow to a trickle. Texass has one hell of a lot more NIL money than Bama will ever think about having. I don't care what the bama qb has gotten.
With shut down of the Keystone pipeline, Texas oil prices will go no where but up. In 5 years these will be "the good ole days" for bama.
Their recruiting pipeline from Texas will slow to a trickle. Texass has one hell of a lot more NIL money than Bama will ever think about having. I don't care what the bama qb has gotten.
With shut down of the Keystone pipeline, Texas oil prices will go no where but up. In 5 years these will be "the good ole days" for bama.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:09 pm to Irons Puppet
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OU is a winner because it opens them up East of the Mississippi.
We already recruit well "East of the Mississippi"
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