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Winners and Losers in this Expansion.

Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:33 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4263 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:33 pm
And I'm talking from a win/loss perspective, not monetarilly.

Huge Winner:

Texas

Texas needs the credibility of playing in the SEC in order to shore up recruiting stop the slide into mediocrity. The best kids in Texas want to play against the best. Now they can do that and play at Texas

SEC play will show Texas how weak and soft they have become so that they can do what is necessary to win.

Winner:

Arkansas

Arkansas needs to reconnect with the Texas Football scene in order to recapture past glories.

Big Losers:

Texas A&M. To be the lone Texas University in the greatest conference would have been grand. Would have been. There goes your recruiting pitch right down the drain.


Loser:

Oklahoma

Champions six years in a row. Solid, good talent. Not enough depth for the SEC gauntlet. Every few years they will slip in due to the twelve team format.

Georgia

Bama to the east.

Florida

Bama to the east

Neutral:

All the rest

Bama will basically play in a similar division and continue to roll. Their recruiting will be unaffected because of, well you know, who they are.

Auburn will move to the east and continue the slow inevitable decline triggered by Malzhan's termination.

LSU. This does nothing but hurt LSU in recruiting. They are now just one of several solid programs out west, and their recruiting will suffer. However, the Bama move to the east will definitely lift moral and keep hope alive.

The others unmentioned continue to be irrelevant.

This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 3:11 pm
Posted by tk for tu juan
Houston
Member since Mar 2019
829 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:35 pm to
Winner: ESPN
Loser: Fox
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15026 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Huge Winner:


Only if they "Win".
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by CauleyHog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Nov 2012
4618 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:36 pm to
Should be a win for Arkansas in the recruiting department I would think.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
7833 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Should be a win for Arkansas in the recruiting department I would think.


I agree 100%. I think you can make the argument that this helps Arkansas more than anyone..
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15163 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Winner: ESPN
Loser: Fox


for real though.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4263 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:39 pm to
I think so Get some of the old swagger back.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Winners and Losers in this Expansion.
And I'm talking from a win/loss perspective, not monetarilly.

Huge Winner:

Texas

Texas needs the credibility of playing in the SEC in order to shore up recruiting stop the slide into mediocrity. The best kids in Texas want to play against the best. Now they can do that and play at Texas

SEC play will show Texas how weak and soft they have become so that they can do what is necessary to win.

Winner:

Arkansas

Arkansas needs to reconnect with the Texas Football scene in order to recapture past glories.

Big Losers:

Texas A&M. To be the lone Texas University in the greatest conference would have been grand. Would have been. There goes your reciting pitch right down the drain.


Loser:

Oklahoma

Champions six years in a row. Solid, good talent. Not enough depth for the SEC gauntlet. Every few years they will slip in due to the twelve team format.

Georgia

Bama to the east.

Florida

Bama to the east

Neutral:

All the rest

Bama will basically play in a similar division and continue to roll. Their recruiting will be unaffected because of, well you know, who they are.

Auburn will move to the east and continue the slow inevitable decline triggered by Malzhan's termination.

LSU. This does nothing but hurt LSU in recruiting. They are now just one of several solid programs out west, and their recruiting will suffer. However, the Bama move to the east will definitely lift moral and keep hope alive.

The others unmentioned continue to be irrelevant.


RiverCityTider:

Interesting perspective. I think it doesn't hurt LSU as much, only at the margins. Last 5 recruiting classes, LSU has signed a total of 17 players from Texas. 1 of them, Grant Delpit was born in New Orleans and was part of the families that evacuated back during Katrina. So about 3 a year on average.

As long as LA HS football doesn't stop playing at a high level, LSU will be ok. The only coach that has shown that he can come in and get LA recruits in battles with LSU is Saban. Not that he gets them all but he has signed some good players from here.

Texas A&M has Jimbo who coached here for 7 years from 2000 to 2007, knows the HS football landscape here better than anyone save Coach O and Saban and he hasn't done much here in LA.

We have replaced Bama and Florida with Texas and OU. Texas A&M is a wash because we are still in the West with them and Auburn is now East.

Texas, OU and Texas A&M are the rosters that are > 50% Texas natives. Who among those 3 will get the majority of the 4/5 Stars in Texas, who will be 2nd, and who will be 3rd is where the shake out will happen.

I do agree with you about Arkansas, they will get 2 games in the Texas footprint with their 2 biggest old SWC rivals, that could help them out, no doubt.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:53 pm to
Actually Jimbo has been recruiting outside of Texas well, and once this move is done every decent TCU, Baylor and Texas Tech player will go to the SEC. It will balance out.

It just sucks Texas and OU can run their mouths about the SEC for a decade and then everyone forgets that the moment they want in.
Posted by exiledhogfan
Missouri
Member since Jul 2021
1227 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:58 pm to
I don't see any way in the world this helps my beloved Razorbacks. Will make football recruiting in Texas and Oklahoma that much more difficult.

As for the other sports, no big deal.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

Winners and Losers in this Expansion.
Actually Jimbo has been recruiting outside of Texas well, and once this move is done every decent TCU, Baylor and Texas Tech player will go to the SEC. It will balance out.

It just sucks Texas and OU can run their mouths about the SEC for a decade and then everyone forgets that the moment they want in.


So what you are saying is that MIZZOU, Ole Miss and MISS. State in addition to Arkansas will capitalize on having more of a footprint in Texas and those better TCU, Baylor and Texas Tech players are going to start signing with those schools and their rosters will improve as well.

Posted by Iron Balls McGinty
Member since Jul 2015
310 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:00 pm to
Losers: The SEC

You won't have 6 weeks to prepare for our high-powered offense.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Fletch1985
Member since Jun 2020
280 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:00 pm to
Biggest losers: ok st, TCU, Baylor, Tx tech.

Arkansas and mizzou will poach the top of their recruiting classes, largely out of DFW and east texas.

Most of those players aren’t going to OU, texas or TAMU anyway bc they are depth there and starters at the 4 names above
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:01 pm to
How can you say Bama is not a loser in this event ? You might not see it as long as Saban is the coach, but it will dilute their power when those two join. The big winner is that it opens up recruiting in TX for other SEC teams. Saban already recruits TX. It is good they are not resisting it, I guess money is a big draw. But Bama fans think it is Bama and not Saban that is the draw.

OU is a winner because it opens them up East of the Mississippi.

AU is a winner because it opens back their rivalry with UF, UT, and continues with UGA. We lose LSU off the schedule.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 3:03 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:02 pm to
Probably. I could also see the Junior college scene in Texas get built up more to get more talent on the field.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:03 pm to
Huge loser:

Bama. Now that everyone can pay players, athletes won't have to live in that shithole located in East Mississippi we call Tuscaloosa.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:05 pm to
Bama is a loser in this. They will no longer be the dominant SEC power.

Their recruiting pipeline from Texas will slow to a trickle. Texass has one hell of a lot more NIL money than Bama will ever think about having. I don't care what the bama qb has gotten.

With shut down of the Keystone pipeline, Texas oil prices will go no where but up. In 5 years these will be "the good ole days" for bama.

Posted by Sonofthetruth
Walker
Member since Dec 2015
729 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:06 pm to
El STUPIDO!!!
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

OU is a winner because it opens them up East of the Mississippi.


We already recruit well "East of the Mississippi"
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