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re: Why won't Alabama schedule a home-and-home?

Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:05 pm to
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What unfair terms would those be? For Notre Dame to reciprocate with a home game in Tuscaloosa? An unfair site like Dallas or Atlanta?

Bama and Notre Dame have history of mutual hatred. They don't want a piece of Saban's Bama. There is no upside for them because they know they would be embarrassed.

Penn State didn't have that problem.




We don't know what caused them to not want to play but odds are way more likely the terms weren't fair in their eyes than it was they were scared. Good lord get over yourself.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 4:07 pm
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24925 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:06 pm to
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Duke in Atlanta? Is that seriously a neutral site game Bama has scheduled? Good grief who will even be remotely excited about that crap. If you're going to go overboard on cupcakes, at least play someone worth a damn in neutral site games.


What are you talking about? Alabama's neutral site OOC games stack up to anybody in the country

Neutral site OOC games by year (rankings at time of game):

2017:
Played #3, #1, and #3

2016:
Played #20, #4, and #2

2015:
Played #20, #3, and #1

Who else can compare to this over the last three years?

This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 4:07 pm
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37630 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:13 pm to
[quote]Good lord get over yourself.

Look up at my list. Did any of those teams seem to think Bama had an unfair advantage? Virginia Tech who we have played twice as well? Mama doesn't drive any unfair advantages.

You sound like some insane LSU homer.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58068 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:21 pm to
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Look up at my list. Did any of those teams seem to think Bama had an unfair advantage? Virginia Tech who we have played twice as well? Mama doesn't drive any unfair advantages.


Your list has frick all to do with the negotiations that you claim went on and failed between Bama and ND. Full stop.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37630 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:24 pm to
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Your list has frick all to do with the negotiations that you claim went on and failed between Bama and ND. Full stop.



Dude get real.....Notre Dame is shady a.f. Always have been even though homers like you buy into the choir boy image.

Are you suggesting Bama does business in an under handed way?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30216 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:27 pm to
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Bama is making a shitload of money playing these Chick-Fil-A kick off games against decent programs every year.


Yep, and the venues with these new stadiums love a marque game with Alabama headlining. 'Cause we Bammer's are so hungry for football after the dog days of summer we travel very well.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58068 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:29 pm to

Homers like me? Look in a mirror baw.

I haven't bought into ND's choir boy image. I enjoy seeing them lose.

I'm simply suggesting that ND didn't think the terms Bama wanted were worth pursuing for whatever reason. However, to say they said no b/c they were scared? GTFO w/that garbage.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:34 pm to
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Your biggest problem (other than the cross-purposes one) is that the only real point of evidence is the season that just ended. In every other one, Bama won the SEC, just as UGA did this year. Would you be willing t make the same argument against UGA getting in if Notre Dame had gone 1-11?


At one point I did say "voters/committee" because this goes back into the BCS years. Look, most every time Bama has played in the Championship Game they deserved to be there. But even if they don't deserve it, they always get the benefit of the doubt.

It's how they got the benefit of the doubt this year over Ohio State despite not winning their division.

It's how they were able to get a rematch with LSU in 2011 despite not winning their division.

It's how they were able to get back into position to play for the Title in 2012 despite a home loss in November.... to most teams losing that late would have sealed their fate. But Bama moved back from #1 to #4, staying ahead of 6 other 1-loss teams from major conferences.

Bama is always going to considered the best 1-loss team when they have 1 loss. They'll always be considered the best 2-loss team when they have 2 losses.

That's how it goes. And I'm not necessarily disagreeing with that notion... they've proven they deserve it in most cases. Which is my entire point. The committee/voters are always going to put Bama in the best position possible for them depending on their record. Bama doesn't have to impress with toughs scheduling. They are going to get the nod just because they are bama.

This was never a criticism. Not sure why Bama fans jumped on me like it was. It's just the truth.
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18617 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:38 pm to
Why don't we just replace Alabama's November schedule with nothing but road games against teams who are in the top 10? Would that shut you frickers up?
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37630 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:38 pm to
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GTFO w/that garbage.


What I am telling you is that Notre Dame doesn't see any upside to playing Bama no matter the stage or the payday. They don't really need the marquee game or the money for their program. It's not being scared but they know they will get beat.....and probably in an embarrassing fashion because there is huge differential in the talent level right now.

As I said, a lot of bad history between the programs and ND doesn't want to give Saban era Bama a chance to even the score. ND had our number in the 60's and 70's. So why give Bama a layup to even up the narrative as to which team is the GOAT. Scared they are not but why play Bama? What is the upside for them. Better to schedule an UGA or A&M.

...and I shouldn't have called you a homer but anyone that thinks ND plays fair doesn't know shite.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:50 pm to
It's a real simple and shameful reason. CNS likes the exposure and the athletic department likes the paycheck from the neutral site games so they aren't even aggressively pursuing home and homes. I hope that changes some now that Byrne is the AD instead of Dollar Bill Battle. But otherwise, no excuse, I got nothing.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37630 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 6:08 pm to
It’s also that Saban wants the team to feel at home in places like these domes like In ATL and Dallas. Likes the neutral site match up because that is what the playoffs look and feel like.......Believe there is some talk in Orlando getting in the mix to host playoff games so that may be another reason why we took the Louisville game.

Also a big P5 OOC match up to start gets the team focused and on point for the season. You have to get your mind right if you are kicking off against FSU or USC as opposed to New Mexico State
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 6:13 pm
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
23884 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

Primo institutions are lined up and begging Bama to give them a neutral site game.

quote:

Like Duke and Louisville?

They’re about the equivalent of aTm.

Maybe primo was too strong.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:26 pm to
quote:


LSU has future series' with Texas, UCLA, Arizona State, and Oklahoma


It's funny you think all these will actually happen.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30885 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 4:55 pm to
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Why should Bama schedule a difficult OOC schedule??? The Committee doesn't care


The flaw in your argument is that you presume that the committee doesn't give Alabama any credit for attempting to schedule strong teams. There is a bast gulf between scheduling a known cupcake, and a ttaditionally strong team who has a bad year. Heck, we've seen the NCAA tournament committee give ctedit to teams for trying to schedule harder OOC opponents. They didn't punish a team for getting UConn the ONE year they get a slew of key injuries and finish poorly.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 4:56 pm to
Why play neutral sites when you could schedule home and homes?
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24750 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 5:01 pm to
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Why play neutral sites when you could schedule home and homes?





Helps recruiting and makes us more money.
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4503 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 6:45 pm to
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 11:16 am
Posted by Paul B Ammer
The Mecca of Tuscaloosa
Member since Jul 2017
2423 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

They are going to get the nod because they are Bama



Oh how I wish I could find the "Deal with it!" Cat Gif.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

Louisville in Orlando might be the final blow


I thought it was Atlanta. Yes the neutral site games do suck arse.
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