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re: Why won't Alabama schedule a home-and-home?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:23 pm to BHMKyle
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:23 pm to BHMKyle
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No, its not the problem at all. Are you saying preseason rankings are more accurate than Final rankings? That's absurd.
Um, no. The text of my comment made what I was saying very clear.
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If we were having a discussion about which team *intends* to schedule difficult opponents, then you would have a point. But that is not what we were discussing.
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No one is blaming anyone. The fact of the matter is Bama has played a relatively weak OOC schedule most years in which Saban has been there, and it has not affected their resume with voters or with the committee.
Oh bullshite. You're a good poster. Don't try that cheap plausible deniability thing. The entire premise of this thread revolves around whether a team is afraid to schedule certain games. As I said, in final analysis, many of these programs had bad years, but in the context of this thread, intention is absolutely relevant to the discussion.
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:23 pm to NFLU
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Looking at your future schedules, it's embarrassing.
LSU has future series' with Texas, UCLA, Arizona State, and Oklahoma.
Alabama has games scheduled with Arkansas State, ULL, The Citadel, New Mexico State, Southern Miss, Georgia State, Kent State aaaaaannnndd Mercer.
Step it up Bama.
Because no Big P5 school wants to schedule an almost guaranteed loss.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:24 pm to BHMKyle
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And Bama is not the only program that has played some bigger name opponents that turned out to be mediocre.
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Bama is not the only one its happening to.
Ok... So then what is your point?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:25 pm to BHMKyle
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No one is blaming anyone
Wait, Really?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:25 pm to BHMKyle
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At this point, why should they schedule anyone difficult?
-BHMKyle, this thread
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If we were having a discussion about which team *intends* to schedule difficult opponents, then you would have a point. But that is not what we were discussing.
-BHMKyle, this thread
It appears as though you have no fricking clue what we are discussing. As we can all see above you have shifted the argument from a focus on intention going into a game, to a focus on how the results of the games were perceived retroactively.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:27 pm to randomways
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The entire premise of this thread revolves around whether a team is afraid to schedule certain games.
I didn't start the thread!!! That was never my argument.
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As I said, in final analysis, many of these programs had bad years, but in the context of this thread, intention is absolutely relevant to the discussion.
That's fine for you to think, but it doesn't change the reality that Bama's OOC regular season schedule during the Saban era has been relatively easy compared to the other bigger programs in the SEC.
I never once said Bama was "afraid" to play tough teams. All I said was that the committee has proven they could care less how easy Bama's OOC schedule is..... then about 5 Bama posters plus yourself jumped in to argue, defying all facts and the reality that what I said was true.
I can defend my opinion when questioned.... don't pin me to the OP when I had nothing to do with that.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:27 pm to Dr RC
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Duke in Atlanta may be the final blow. But at least I’ll get the tickets for $10 a pop.
The embarrassing thing is that the universities will charge bowl game prices for that game. Face value will start at least at $100. It would be easy to say boycott, but neither university gives a shite about the ticket buying fan.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:27 pm to randomways
Yep, Alabama consistently schedules a big name opponent OOC - Saban is GOAT but even he can't predict which teams will shite the bed the year Bama plays them in week 1.
This is what we get when opponents run out things to bitch at Alabama / troll Alabama fans about I suppose.
ETA: Also Saban has said he finds neutral site games in recruiting hotbeds to be beneficial I believe. Probably also is nice for the players to get to go to a bigger city than do a home and home in random college.
This is what we get when opponents run out things to bitch at Alabama / troll Alabama fans about I suppose.
ETA: Also Saban has said he finds neutral site games in recruiting hotbeds to be beneficial I believe. Probably also is nice for the players to get to go to a bigger city than do a home and home in random college.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:28 pm to NFLU
Money.
Bama gets paid every year to play these neutral site games. Usually around 5 to 6 million.
Would only get paid every other year doing the home and home.
Bama gets paid every year to play these neutral site games. Usually around 5 to 6 million.
Would only get paid every other year doing the home and home.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:31 pm to remaster916
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Bama gets paid every year to play these neutral site games. Usually around 5 to 6 million.
We've got plenty of money. The other three teams in the playoffs this year all make a shitload of money also...and they all played H&H games this year, and it didn't hurt them one bit.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:31 pm to thatthang
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It appears as though you have no fricking clue what we are discussing.
No it appears you have no clue.
My argument has been the same since the very first post in this thread:
Why should Bama schedule a difficult OOC schedule??? The Committee doesn't care.
Saying Bama "should" do something is not the same as saying they "are" doing that.
I never once said Bama was afraid of scheduling tough teams. Never came close to that. I'm looking at how each of Bama's opponents actually turned out, and the results are unimpressive aside from one USC team who didn't even play Sam Darnold.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:35 pm to BHMKyle
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That's fine for you to think, but it doesn't change the reality that Bama's OOC regular season schedule during the Saban era has been relatively easy compared to the other bigger programs in the SEC.
I never once said Bama was "afraid" to play tough teams. All I said was that the committee has proven they could care less how easy Bama's OOC schedule is..... then about 5 Bama posters plus yourself jumped in to argue, defying all facts and the reality that what I said was true.
I can defend my opinion when questioned.... don't pin me to the OP when I had nothing to do with that
Okay, you're right, you're not the OP. But your digression from that point is why you and the Bama fans are arguing at cross-purposes. Until y'all resolve that (which I find unlikely because you want to establish the one thing and they want to establish another, each for your own reasons) this argument is just going to go in circles.
I consider them absolutely right in the argument about the foresight in scheduling, and I consider you absolutely right in the hindsight aspect. Your biggest problem (other than the cross-purposes one) is that the only real point of evidence is the season that just ended. In every other one, Bama won the SEC, just as UGA did this year. Would you be willing t make the same argument against UGA getting in if Notre Dame had gone 1-11?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:37 pm to PJinAtl
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Because the school gets some form of revenue from those games, correct
Alabama makes more from the kickoff games than they do for two home games. There will never be another home and home until they suck enough to not be invited.
It's not our fault LSU is too shitty to be asked.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:39 pm to BHMKyle
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Would Notre Dame not have been hurt by their loss to Georgia??
Yes of course.....but the point is all Bama or any team can really do is to schedule quality opponents. As you know, these games are scheduled years in advance. For example we just scheduled Miami. Miami is a good team. We assume that they will get better but we have no idea what will happen in 2021 or how Miami will finish that season.
So this narrative that you pump that Bama has benefitted from a weak schedule is nonsense. We have scheduled and have attempted to scheduled games with every quality program in the country.
And I will also add that I know for a fact that Mal Moore offered Notre Dame a neutral site or home and home. Notre Dame declined and said that they would only offer a game at South Bend. They would not play Alabama at a neutral site and they said they would not travel to Tuscaloosa. However, they took UGA up on a deal.....I wonder why?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:41 pm to randomways
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Okay, you're right, you're not the OP. But your digression from that point is why you and the Bama fans are arguing at cross-purposes. Until y'all resolve that (which I find unlikely because you want to establish the one thing and they want to establish another, each for your own reasons) this argument is just going to go in circles.
While, plus he has tried to say no one is arguing that while the thread was created on that purpose. He might not be arguing that but not sure why he said no one was.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:44 pm to 14&Counting
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And I will also add that I know for a fact that Mal Moore offered Notre Dame a neutral site or home and home. Notre Dame declined and said that they would only offer a game at South Bend. They would not play Alabama at a neutral site and they said they would not travel to Tuscaloosa. However, they took UGA up on a deal.....I wonder why?
Odds are Bama wanted unfair terms. It's not like ND is scared to plays big name schools in home and homes.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 3:56 pm to NFLU
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LSU has future series' with Texas, UCLA, Arizona State, and Oklahoma.
No one wants to set foot in your shitty overrated stadium unless you promise to go to their place.
Primo institutions are lined up and begging Bama to give them a neutral site game.
We’ve got a 10 year multi-NC Dynasty going, while you guys have 0, Em, and Joe. And a guaranteed 4+ losses a year for the foreseeable future.
You tell me which business model for s working.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:02 pm to Dr RC
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Odds are Bama wanted unfair terms. It's not like ND is scared to plays big name schools in home and homes.
What unfair terms would those be? For Notre Dame to reciprocate with a home game in Tuscaloosa? An unfair site like Dallas or Atlanta?
Bama and Notre Dame have history of mutual hatred. They don't want a piece of Saban's Bama. There is no upside for them because they know they would be embarrassed.
Penn State didn't have that problem.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:03 pm to Sid E Walker
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Primo institutions are lined up and begging Bama to give them a neutral site game.
Like Duke and Louisville?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 4:05 pm to NFLU
You are one dumb frick.
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