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re: Why has nobody refuted this account?
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:39 am to PeleofAnalytics
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:39 am to PeleofAnalytics
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I have not read all the details of the case but is there any actual evidence that he knew the gun was in his car?
Not unless you include the text. Supposedly it was in the backseat and consealed by clothes/in a hat.
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:41 am to PeleofAnalytics
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wife sends me all sorts of texts. I certainly don't read them all. I once drove to Mississippi to pick up a kid because I missed a text she sent.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:42 am to LegendInMyMind
Sure, he's also a thug. However I was referring to the three that murdered the girl.
4 thugs.... Sorry.
4 thugs.... Sorry.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:42 am to SidewalkTiger
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The funny thing is that OP is one of the worst on this board for doing just that.
Yet he gets his panties in a wad when the tables are turned.
What a hypocrite.
Somebody's feeling like roadkill right now....you'll get over it.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:47 am to hogcard1964
quote:So THREE players (all thugs) murdered the girl, and one thug was with the girl, right?....so was the girl a thug, too?
Sure, he's also a thug. However I was referring to the three that murdered the girl.
4 thugs.... Sorry.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:59 am to coachcrisp
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Somebody's feeling like roadkill right now....you'll get over it
I'm glad you can at least admit your hypocrisy.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:02 pm to coachcrisp
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.so was the girl a thug, too?
wow
holy shite
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:02 pm to coachcrisp
Boy, you Crimson Scum will go to any length to protect your POS athletes. Must be sad to have your self worth valued by Gump athletics.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:08 pm to msudawg1200
Lots of intelligent discourse here! 
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:13 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:There are allegedly FIVE people involved in an incident, and FOUR have been labeled thugs (people on BOTH sides of the altercation), now what would be the intelligent info to attempt to obtain at that point?
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.so was the girl a thug, too?
wow
holy shite
Harry, I'm giving you everything but the answer!...C'mon, man!
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:17 pm to coachcrisp
Funny how his lawyer mentioned a bunch of stuff about Miller and guns, but never said whether or not Miller knew about the gun.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:24 pm to Old Sarge
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Sworn testimony refuted it
I keep seeing this type allegation w/ no source or even a quote. You have something to back up your statement? I can't conclude the kid did anything wrong at all.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:33 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Funny how his lawyer mentioned a bunch of stuff about Miller and guns, but never said whether or not Miller knew about the gun.
Don't you think that the police asked that question?
2) And if they did, don't you think that he answered "yes" or "no"(with his attorney's approval)?
3) And if he answered "no" the police would attempt to substantiate whether he was lying or telling the truth?
4) And if he was proven to be lying, AND charges were appropriate, he'd be charged?
5) But if he said "no" and there was no evidence to prove otherwise, he'd be good to go?
6) Finally,if he'd said "yes" and there was nothing wrong with what he did, he'd be also, good to go?
Does that make it any clearer for you?
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:37 pm to rebelrouser
Not seeing this info on the rant either.
According to the info on here the Jeep was behind Miller's car. The bullets, fired by Johnson, went through the front windshield or back window?
Miller and his passenger were facing away from the Jeep when the shooting occurred into Miller's car, an occupied vehicle. Is all this correct?
According to the info on here the Jeep was behind Miller's car. The bullets, fired by Johnson, went through the front windshield or back window?
Miller and his passenger were facing away from the Jeep when the shooting occurred into Miller's car, an occupied vehicle. Is all this correct?
This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:41 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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I guarantee you the media has people quiety and furiously digging into every case they can find in Alabama where someone accused of the exact same thing are incarcerated
Ok. What in the hell does that have to do with the Bama basketball team? Sounds like you should make a call to the DA/ADA and find out. Otherwise STFU!! It's almost as if you don't think people have seen the video evidence of the occurrence. I am beginning to understand you aren't a very bright person.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:44 pm to coachcrisp
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I'm not looking for a "gocha". I'm looking for someone to REFUTE (verb:
prove (a statement or theory) to be wrong or false; disprove.) what he said!
Again, the police, media, or haters CAN'T, and the first two have all the resources to do so!
Any person with a lick of common sense and judgement would allow the process to be completed before making any claims and condemnations.....but agendas taken care of first!
It's not what he said, it's what he didn't say. He didn't say Miller did not know the gun was in the car. And he didn't say Miller didn't see the text. If Miller did not know the gun was in the car and/or did not see the text his lawyer would have said so.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:47 pm to coachcrisp
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Don't you think that the police asked that question?
2) And if they did, don't you think that he answered "yes" or "no"(with his attorney's approval)?
3) And if he answered "no" the police would attempt to substantiate whether he was lying or telling the truth?
4) And if he was proven to be lying, AND charges were appropriate, he'd be charged?
5) But if he said "no" and there was no evidence to prove otherwise, he'd be good to go?
6) Finally,if he'd said "yes" and there was nothing wrong with what he did, he'd be also, good to go?
Does that make it any clearer for you?
His lawyer had the opportunity to address the most important question, instead he chose to say everything else about Miller and the gun.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:48 pm to gumbeaux
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1. It is hard to believe that Miller did not know the gun was in the back seat.
A very reasonable question to ask and one I think many people share.
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2. It is also hard to believe that Miller did not see the text from Miles to bring his gun.
Also possible this is true.
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Of course, none of this can be proved or disproved. It's just the probability that Miller knew the gun was in his car and he read the text to bring the gun is what has people upset.
This is the crux of it.
I’ll go one better than what you suggested. Why were all the other players there? At a certain point it looks like it COULDVE been a conspiracy or larger plan to retaliate against the guy from the bar.
But while we can speculate he did x or y, we don’t know for sure. And if the authorities aren’t alleging he did either of those things and no witness or evidence exists all we have is speculation without evidence to support a conclusion.
So what do you do at that point?
Personally I was so upset when the story first hit I almost didn’t renew my season tickets. From the way the story was being framed it was inexcusable the way it was being handled.
But based on the facts that can be proven, the laws on the books I’m not sure how else it could be dealt with?
A suspension implies he was an accessory to murder because if he’s not guilty of that he’s not guilty of anything. Someone guilty of that should be thrown off a team not suspended. And the reality is the evidence just doesn’t support that type of conclusion.
So I understand the outrage especially with the way the situation has been portrayed in the media but there isn’t a clear path for what the Bama AD was supposed to do here.
Miles was charged and was immediately thrown off the team.
If Miller were charged as an accessory I would hope he’d be thrown off the team as well, but he hasn’t been so absent a token suspension for a specious team violation that wouldn’t satisfy the lynch mob I’m not sure what the move here is supposed to be.
This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:49 pm to Imber
quote:If Miller did know the gun was in the car and/or did see the text, and the police did NOT charge, then what does THAT tell you?
If Miller did not know the gun was in the car and/or did not see the text his lawyer would have said so.
Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:56 pm to coachcrisp
That's unknown. But she's dead because of the thug activity of the other 4.
That's indisputable.
That's indisputable.
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