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Why has nobody refuted this account?

Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:41 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30583 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:41 am
Not the police, not the media, and not the scum who don't want it not to be so.

Miller's attorney, Jim Standridge, said Miles asked for a ride to a night club on the Strip and Miles brought his handgun and left it in the backseat of Miller's vehicle.

"Brandon never saw the handgun nor handled it," Standridge said. "Further, it is our understanding that the weapon was concealed under some clothing in the back seat of the car."

Miller didn't go in the nightclub, Standridge said. Instead, Miller went to a restaurant to eat before Miles later asked Miller to pick up him to take him to another location to join friends. After an hour at the restaurant, Miller first gave a ride home to another individual before picking up Miles.

Miles texted Miller asking him to bring his firearm, but Miller's attorney said that occurred while Miller was already on the way to pickup Miles.

Standridge said all of the events are captured clearly on video and there is no disputing Miller's activities.

"Brandon has submitted to multiple interviews to assist law enforcement in further understanding the situation, he has volunteered to have his phone contents extracted as well as that of the contents of his automobile," Standridge said. "He will continue to cooperate as any citizen should who has witnessed a serious incident. Brandon does not own a firearm and has never even handled a firearm. Moreover, he had no knowledge of any intent to use any weapon."


This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 8:42 am
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55184 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:42 am to
Lawyer spin

Sworn testimony refuted it
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52186 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:44 am to
I have no idea what the kid's intent was but not sure that posting his defense attorney's statement is any kind of "gotcha."

Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23710 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:49 am to
You can whine bitch moan cry masturbate whatever...it's over as far as Miller is concerned. No charges and he plays.

We still have a trial in a court of law ahead and what will you do if it turns out the accused are over charged and or one or both walk?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11109 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Lawyer spin

Sworn testimony refuted it

False. There is no evidence to support your statement.

Even the text only shows Miles was upset, not that Miller was delivering a gun with the intent to aid Miles in committing a crime.

Also the initial outrage over him blocking the alley way was shown to be false with surveillance camera footage.

Horrible situation and one that I was initially as upset about as you due to the way it was being portrayed, but Miller didn't commit a crime which the DA has said repeatedly, nor did he even break any team rules that I'm aware of.

I understand the outrage at the situation but show me with evidence what you would suspend Miller for specifically?
This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 9:05 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52186 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Also the initial outrage over him blocking the alley way was shown to be false with surveillance camera footage.


I mean not really.

The police said he was blocking the Jeep in but they never actually said if it was intentional or not.

If the Jeep pulled in behind Miller, then he likely was blocking it in, just not intentionally.

A lot of folks jumped to that conclusion without knowing for sure.

This whole thing is about intent.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35893 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:56 am to
quote:

I understand the outrage at the situation but show me with evidence what you would suspend Miller for specifically


I'll answer this one for them.

The Rant:

He delivered a gun that was used in a murder.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30583 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:56 am to
quote:

I have no idea what the kid's intent was but not sure that posting his defense attorney's statement is any kind of "gotcha."
I'm not looking for a "gocha". I'm looking for someone to REFUTE (verb:
prove (a statement or theory) to be wrong or false; disprove.) what he said!
Again, the police, media, or haters CAN'T, and the first two have all the resources to do so!
Any person with a lick of common sense and judgement would allow the process to be completed before making any claims and condemnations.....but agendas taken care of first!
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11109 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:57 am to
quote:

I mean not really.

The police said he was blocking the Jeep in but they never actually said if it was intentional or not.


You are just speculating without evidence to support a decision you've already made.

I initially wanted him suspended as well, but then as facts became available had to reassess because I couldn't support my original conclusion.

Again, right now what specifically would you suspend Brandon Miller for?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35739 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:58 am to
it took Standridge over a month after the murder to say those his well-thought-out words, and now you're repeating it again after almost another month
This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 9:02 am
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
1458 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:59 am to
I’m not advocating for him to be prosecuted or kicked off the team but he knew the gun was in the car. Why wouldn’t he stop what he was doing and not drive to Miles after he saw Miles text asking for the gun? Why would he let Miles in his car with a gun?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30583 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:01 am to
quote:

it took Standridge over a month after the murder to make those his well-thought-out words, and now you're repeating it again after almost another month
REFUTE THEM THEN,Skippy!
My thread's not complicated..just REFUTE the account!
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11109 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:02 am to
quote:

He delivered a gun that was used in a murder.

No crime or team rule was violated.

He was an unwitting accomplice until shown otherwise based on all the facts that have been presented. If other facts emerge they should be addressed.

If my buddy called saying he was about to get in a fight and I had promised him I was going to pick him up from the bar before he went out I would probably probably feel obligated to try to get his dumbass home too.

If evidence emerges he knew he had a gun and gave it to Miles to help aid in a murder he should be suspended and charged.

Until then its a terrible tragedy that could've been prevented if certain people didn't feel a need to handle disputes with guns over "disrespect".
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24344 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:03 am to
Why would he stop if....

- He didn't have the context of the argument that there was even an argument.
- He was already on the way before he was texted.
- He got there before the victims showed up...
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52186 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:03 am to
quote:

You are just speculating without evidence to support a decision you've already made.


Actually, no.

I'm going off of sworn testimony from a police officer.

It sounds like Miller's car was, in fact, blocking the Jeep in, although from all accounts, it was unintentional on Miller's part.

More the Jeep driver's fault than Miller's.

Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:04 am to
quote:

If my buddy called saying he was about to get in a fight and I had promised him I was going to pick him up from the bar before he went out I would probably probably feel obligated to try to get his dumbass home too.

Sigh.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35739 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:05 am to
quote:

REFUTE THEM THEN,Skippy!
My thread's not complicated..just REFUTE the account




okay, I hearby officially refute that bullshite that Standridge said

Done
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35893 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:06 am to
quote:

No crime or team rule was violated


I didn't say it was, just saying what the rant has been regurgitating for two weeks.
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
1458 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:07 am to
quote:

Why would he stop if....

If your friend has been drinking and asks you to bring a gun to the strip you shouldn’t do it.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24344 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:08 am to
quote:

If your friend has been drinking and asks you to bring a gun to the strip you shouldn’t do it.


What if he didn't see the text and his intent was to pick him up (since he was on his way to pick him up).

The thing about this case is intent and knowledge. None of it is provable. Bad decisions =/ a crime either.
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